My family has had approximately 15 yrs experience raising purebred registered australian shepherds, and now I have a female that is not coming into heat. She was suppose to come into heat about the middle of March and we are yet to see any signs of estrus. Has anyone else ever experienced this because we have never seen it? Do you suppose she is late or did she just skip a cycle? She is a young dog, about 3 yrs and she has had 2 litters and has always come into heat on time and bred normal....everything is usually normal. She is current on shots and worming....I don't know what else to do. If you can give me some insight!! :)
Possibility...yes. I haven't had any trouble in the past with this. I know when my dogs are physically ready to carry and raise a litter...I don't just do it for fun. I take my breeding seriously. If my dogs are not in top shape they don't breed...This female is in wonderful shape. Any other ideas?
If you take it so seriously, how could your 3yr old already have 2 litters? What about her OFA? How old was she when she had her first litter? It is possible if you bred her back to back in short amount of time, her body is tired. It is also possible she could have something going on. A silent heat is another possiblity. I really hope you are not planning on breeding her again, on this heat. That isn't responsible, that is breeding for money.
I would like to know what exactly 15yrs of experiance is, most people learn as they go, it sounds to me all you did was breed, breed, breed. It is quite upsetting esp. to me since Aussies are my breed.
Don't get your panties in a bunch!! She is almost 4yrs and had a litter at 2 1/2yrs and 3yrs(which is probably a mortal sin to you) It turns out we, not her, just missed a heat, she was staying with a family friend because we were moving and she doesn't show a strong heat so they didn't know. As far as OFA goes, read about something different that some "breeders" use ..."PennHIP evaluation can be done as early as sixteen weeks of age, and even if you wait until six months, knowing early gives you many options that OFA cannot provide.
A loose-hipped puppy at six months is a loose-hipped dog for life. If you already know this it can save you considerable time and expense in training and care. If you were planning on future breedings you know now that this is not the dog for you. You can decide to keep them as a pet and have them neutered to prevent passing on dysplastic genes, or you can find them a good non-breeding home.
On the other hand, the dog deemed tight-hipped that performs well early, might be on track for an extra litter or two of breeding, more than paying for the cost of the examination.
Speaking of breeding, the PennHIP is much better for use in breeding than the OFA." ~By Ben J. Character Veterinarian Special to ESPNOutdoors.com
And btw...15 yrs of experience means my family has bred dogs for 15yrs and we did learn as we went! We get our dogs vet checked, on a regular basis. I only came on here to see if anyone had any suggestions not to get chewed out.
Chill out people, this site is only a forum...the vet can only tell the truth and the vet said all is ok! PS~ I'm glad you think aussies are your breed, but as I can clearly tell, you have minis! They are almost the same...but less.
Oh YIKES... there was a post on here a few years ago about a study done to see if the everyother cycle was true or a myth. It's a myth folks...they took two sets of bitches, bred one set back to back, one set every other cycle. the study lasted 5or 10 years, I don't remember, but the bitches who were bred back to back had healthier, firmer uteruses than the every other cycle set. So the conventional wisdom here is breed them back to back then spay them. I breed back to back and my bitches ARE healthier. At 5 or 6 they get spayed and I keep ALL my bitches and dogs, I don't rehome them just beacuase they can't reproduce. I still love them, maybe even more, after they've been altered. I guess I apprreciate them more...for the lovely future generations
You were the one who said your dog was 3yrs, now you change it to 4yrs. That makes since. Yes the study that was done about skipping heats made such a hugh impact that even AKC will not registar a litter on the 3rd back to back breeding. It is in their rules. I think breed 2 then skip one is fine, but I would never breed my dog on and on. I don't care what study was done.
My dogs are smaller, but no less a dog then yours. According to the pennhip site, yes they can be done as early as 8wks, but recommends the dog to be at least 6month for a definate result. A dog can always do dysplastic before 2yrs, and after, if excersized wrong.
Lastly, you want to less mine are less, less what. Less important, less special, less dog, less hair, what? I would love to know what you are trying to get at. I have champions, I assume you have champions, I give a life time health guarentee, you give what 2yrs?
Inevitably you are going to assume that whatever is said I i'll not be quite as good as you, so go ahead think it. I could give 2 lifetime guarantees, +1, infinity, but how old are we??? haha. I guarantee the way I do and you do it the way you do...leave it at that, don't assume I don't guarantee! Your dogs are not Australian Shepherds, they are minis, just the same as Toy aussies are not the same as minis...wouldn't you agree? Would you want your mini's mistaken for a toy? I am not saying it to be mean...it is a fact. Mini Aussies weren't even a breed until around 1990. Some people would argue that they are imbred that is why they have a small stature. I will admit that this is a myth, but they did use the smallest of the aussies to breed together, therefore they used the lesser dogs, not the pick of the litter, the runts if I may say (no offense, yet again fact). Anyway you want to say it, they are less...less size, less hair, smaller bark, smaller bite ;) I am however not saying you are less of a breeder, they are less smart, they are less of a champion. The heart, or brains, of an aussie is not judged by its size!
I'm not a big believer in the results of that study either considering how many 'exhausted' wombs (my way of putting it) I've seen in people who back to back. Maybe they try to push it a little longer or something but it is a direct result of the constant breeding's to be sure. A back to back here or there depending on mom and how things went is okay though I think. It wouldn't be my preference not just for my girls but for the quality and health of the pups. I just feel like constant back to backs would deplete/effect what mom had to give to the pups in addition to what I've seen it do to their bodies. Erratic heats can be common in some breeds/dogs. If you're not 100% positive she went through a heat you might want to check the thyroid since that can sometimes be a factor.
That is where full sized Aussie and mini Aussie people don't get a long. How is my dog not an Australian Shepherd? It was bred from them, I could care less if someone called my dog a toy aussie.
I don't know you, so I am not going to consider you a bad breeder. I may not agree with your ethics but that doesn't mean your a bad breeder, just as you may not agree with my ethics, I am not a bad breeder. Neither one of us has seen each other dogs, kennel, points, etc. The simple fact is you asked a question, I anwsered back with my opinion, using the facts you gave me. You decided to shoot back a statment about me, and my dogs. That I felt was a personal attack, so I attack back. Saying my dogs are less, and leaving it open ended like that, is in my opinion a direct, and nasty attack on me and my breeding kennel.
I was just like you almost 15 years ago give or take. I said many of the same things about mini aussies. I felt they were mixes, not of quality, etc. Then I saw what AKC does to a breed, and what people do to dog just to win a ribbon. I can not even purchase a quality full sized Aussie for breeding/showing without having a championship. The dogs now have massive coats for abreed that is supposed to have a med. coat. Most couldn't work cattle if you wanted them to, they would die of heat stroke. As time went on, I met quite a few mini's at agility, and talked to alot of full sized breeders. When I had my car accident, and they pulled all the muscles off my spine, I realized how hard it was to help my 65lb baby up the stairs. At the age of 13, she was my last full sized aussie. The mini's looked like a great Idea.
As you get older, or have a horrible accident like me, and there is no one around to help you it is amazing how much better the smaller size looks. I love my mini's, just like I loved my full sized. I am glad I changed my mind and let the mini's into my life. They are the exact same dog, same breed, same health problems, everything, just a smaller size.
This forum is not about who is right, or wrong. You ask a question, it gets anwsered. Sit down read your question and be in my shoes. If you still feel I am wrong, so be it. I still have my mini's and hopefully we will never get into AKC. No AKC, No Change.