Hi, I am very interested in the corgi breed. I have own two already and am in the process of purchasing puppies. What I would like to know is; Does anyone know of a breeder/breeder's that have corgi puppies with naturally bobbed tails? Meaning they are born with out tails, just a little nub. Hope someone can point me in the right direction.
I know in the aussies, we do come across natural bob-tails from time to time, so there are probably some corgi's who produce it. I doubt there is a breeder who has only that. You really proabably have to take your chances. find breeders who have had one or two and a litter and put a deposit on that litter. It is going to be a waiting game, so be ready.
I know there are a few breeders working to produce naturally docked Rotties, but I have heard very mixed things about the dogs. The often have major conformation faults and some spinal defects. Unfortunately if the AR fanatics get their way, it might be the only way to have a stubby tailed dog.
I think the litters that have tailless pups are not always 100% natural bob. Its fairly common. My girl is supposedly a natural bob.
Why do you want this anyway? Something you want to breed for or just don't want a docked dog? It really is nothing to have them docked. Pups could care less and I know many corgis and none have tail issues:)
Focus on a good breeder and then tails.
If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons -James Thurber
Right now the PWC breed has far greater issue's than having NBT's. I believe that two NBT's can somehow produce life threatening spinal issue's as well. There are so few NBT's that uncomfortably close linebreeding would probably have to be done. We have a greater issue with degenerative myelopathy. If you want to bottle neck your gene pool, do it with DM clear dogs rather than something as frugal as a NBT that has it's own bucket of problems that go with it anyway. I as a breeder/owner would value a DM clear dog whose tail I had to dock over any NBT DM At Risk dog anyday.
Don't believe those that are saying if you breed a natural bob to bob that it will only cause problems. In Norway they have been doing this for 16 years and with a lot of testing and research to see if there are any problems. None have been found. I think they get close to 60% natural bob or short tails and only one of the dogs needs to carry the gene. Most people here there is a lethal gene if bob to bob are together and stop reading at that point. The lethal gene they found works when eggs are being fertilized and no cause puppies to be born with terrible problems and early death, and their litter sizes are the same as long tail corgi to long tail corgi. I have talked to a number of breeders in Aust. Finland, Norway, and England who have been breeding with no more issues then in a normal litter.
Yes. The lethal gene only affects the eggs. You will still get normal liter size and around half of your puppies will be born with a bob, ranging from no tail at all to short tails. Any problems seen with the puppies are normal for any liter. If a dog throws puppies with issues it won't matter if it is bred with a natural bob or a full tail or if both sire and dam are both natural bob. And it is the natural bob to natural bob that most think will result in dead puppies.
I know this topic is over a year old but I had commented on it origionally and have added input for anyone who ever finds it via Google search results which we all know happens alot here at TP.
I did a stud service back in June on a female for a friend of mine to my good old boy Coalbee who by the way is a wonderful example of the breed to boot(per AKC specialty and all breed judge opinions) produced 4 natural bob tails in the litter that was born two days ago. This is a very well proven mature female who is nearing the end of her puppy rearing years and has ALWAYS produced 6 puppies actually had 8 this time!!! I know more research would need done to prove or disprove that NBT gene's cause smaller litters, that is not the case here. Usually females start producing smaller litters at the end of their whelping box career's but this gal didn't produce fewer but more in the case of a NBT producing litter. I doubt the NBT gene has anything to do with there being more pups but, it certainly doesn't lend it's self to causing smaller litters.
This just thrilled me when the bitch owner sent me the e-mail about it. Mr Coalbee also has a fairly good DM status, good hips, elbows, CERF'ing good at a very mature age, and vWD clear and temperament that sets the world on fire. I just love that old man. I'm not proud, not at all.