I have a female yorkie poo and my mother in law has a male yorkie poo. Is it safe to breed the two of them? Someone told her that the two of them could not mate, does anyone know if this is true? Are there any health risks to my female? I don't want to breed them forever - I only want my girl to have one litter, but if there are any risks to her safety then it is out of the question. Any info/feed back would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I don't see a need really to breed two mutts in order to produce more mutts.
Why not have your girl spayed and just enjoy her as a pet?
There are plenty of health problem that occur in purebreds, you double the health problems when you mix two breeds. Whoever told you that the two of them could not mate is not very intelligent. A male and female of any almost any breed can mate. Is this safe and the right thing to do? I don't think so but then again, this is only my opinion. If the male is bigger than the female, then the problems only multiply as in these small breeds may require a c-section.
What reason do you want her to have at least 1 litter? Do you want to keep all the puppies so that you have a lot of dogs at home or are you looking to sell them?
I just believe there are so many homeless mixed breeds in the shelters and rescue programs right now, I see no need to add to that.
Have your girl spayed and help control the pet population. Bob Barker will thank you for it!
Best of luck!
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I think on this forum you will get most people wondering why in the world would you want to create more mixed bred animals when there are thousands of healthy animals being euthanized each year? I am sure you love your dog very much, but that is not enough of a reason to create more creatures in this world with a possibility of one or more of those pups ending up at a shelter. Unless of course you plan on giving each of the resulting puppies a forever home with you, then you would be very irresponsible in breeding your dogs. Get them spayed and neutered.
There are so many mixed bred and purebred dogs going through the shelters getting spayed and neutered everyday it is ridiculous! It is like a constant line up of surgeries with three tables going on at once with more dogs being made ready for surgery. I know that as I help getting those dogs ready for surgery as I am a vet tech.
I don't mean to sound mean, but it is in fact thinking like yours that is putting so many dogs in shelters each year. Purposeless breeding. Breeding just to breed is no reason at all. If your dogs are not proven to be champions and are exceptional for their type or breeding then you should just love your dogs and have them spayed and neutered. Go give a healthy animal that would otherwise be killed a home instead.
Good for you for asking first before you breed your two yorkshire terriers x poodles. However, as other posters have said, there are risks and if there is no other reason for you breeding them other than making some money, please don't do it. Most responsible breeders will do health testing and not breed any dog with any health or physical structure issues. Most of these breeders strive to improve and maintain the standard of their breed. As you may have learned already, breeding of mutts is not really an acceptable practice on this forum or in the dog world in general.
Every time you breed your dog, it puts her at risk. How old is she? If she's under two, it's too young. Are you prepared for the caring for the puppies, getting all the supplies like milk replacer if it's necessary, a whelping box, etc etc - I don't really know all that is required but what if there are problems with the birth? Or with all the puppies?
I work at an animal hospithe l and get many desperate calls from people who have bred their dog and they're having problems but they don't have money to pay for treatment. One lady yelled at one of the doctors because she offered to do a C-section and a spay for $500 (basically giving her the spay for free). She was declined for a pet card loan and she told us her son had $500 but he only had $300 cash as I guess he had spent some of it. Another lady called who had a litter of five kittens. She usually feeds them IAMS but since she didn't have money, she fed them no name cat food. Three days later, the kittens couldn't walk. The mother wasn't eating as well. Her sister's cat was also pregnant. We told her we would have to charge an exam fee for each kitten and she freaked saying she was a single mother of three and could hardly afford one kitten. How is that my problem? She then proceeds to ask me how she can get money from the company that makes the no name food. The only thing I could do was give her numbers to the pet poison control. I realize the vet industry has a sort of 'money=grabbing" reputaton but the reality is, the person would have to pay for treatment for each kitten, single mother or not.
My point is, in addition to the whole mutt breeding issues, you have to consider what could happen before birth, during birth and after birth. Are you prepared to spend money in case she has to have a c-section or if the puppies need treatment? Think about it: let's say your dog had 5 puppies (could be more). Let's say your dog needs a c-section and let's say the puppies were not doing well. Let's say the c-section costs $500 - then there's hospitalization fees for each animal so that's $95 per day per animal ($500 per day just to keep the puppies plus another $95 for the mother); then any medication or oxygen treatment or whatever for each puppy and the mother - this will add up to a lot of money. Do you also know how to care for your dog while she is pregnant and after she has the puppies? It's too much to go into on this forum but I would strongly encourage you to reconsider. Not only will you be introducing untested mutts into the world - maybe some of which may not be able to be homed or may end up in shelters because of their unpredictable temperament or health issues - but you are risking your dog's health.
***Edited By: flipgirl24 on 7/31/2009 8:31:03 PM*** Reason: edit
In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semi human. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog. ~Edward Hoagland
^ very reasonable fees at your place. C-sections here at an ER vet are $900 and up...cash or credit card only.
A mix bred to a mix makes a heinz 57....it does not create more yorkiepoos as you call them. Breeding is a risky and expensive venture, I can think of no reason to chance your girls health to create more mixed breeds.
You are asking for feedback, so here's a small piece of advice. The fact that you are here , on a pet forum, asking breeding advice says it all. You do not know anyone here, so how do you know that you will be getting safe advice ? I have seen some pretty scary advice given out here. Dipping dogs in motor oil to treat mange, was just a sample. And i am sure some of you old timers here remember the wingnut that suggested a cure for dogs that dig ? Filling the holes with water and holding their heads under it until they panicked............... Don't laugh people, there were probably more than you think that actually tried it !
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This may be a long post, but I want to say a few things about this breed and to clear up a few things on all the negative comments on many sites online these days regarding the Yorkie Poo. I have read everything from post where others fuss out anyone asking a question about breeding this type of dog to something as simple as caring for this type of dog. I have read post calling them MUTTS or slamming anyone who even mentions the idea of breeding this type of dog. It seems if a dog is not "pure" within one breed, it’s a mongrel with no purpose to many of the diehard breeders out there. I got my "first" AKC registered dog in my early 20's. A chow that came from good lines, but was so mean and untrustworthy, I had to give him away to a single person with lots of land and very few neighbors. My 2nd experience with a pure bred dog was a Shih’tzu- I did research the breed, I had kids by that time and again, I ended up with a dog that had a snappy personality and was a nuisance. I tried everything to train the puppy, housebreak the puppy and break her of really bad behaviors. All failed. I gave the dog to a family member for FREE and was out hundreds of dollars. I loved the look of the shih’tzu and wanted an inside dog that was small and family friendly. (A companion dog would be the word today) So, a few years later, I broke down and got another full blooded Shih’tzu from another breeder who was more reputable, the breeder had both parents on site, both were AKC registered and all the family history for several generations was available on both parents. Again, I ended up with a dog that I could NOT house break, it had the same habits of the first shih’tzu; such as the “backwards sneeze”, both developed hernias, along with being a snappy dog that showed its teeth a lot and bit. Again, I gave away another FULL blooded registered dog. I knew the new owners that we gave both of these dogs too and over the next few years I learned both of the dogs we paid so much for from separate breeders with their registered bloodlines, had the same heath issues, same issues with teeth, breathing, and blindness. Shortly after I rescued a Chihuahua mix. It was half Chihuahua and half dachshund. The dog was my heart for ten years until she passed away from breast cancer. She was healthy, well behaved and very easy to train. She had the best of both breeds and very few of the problems with either breed. When my darling Dixie passed I was heartbroken. The vet had told me that the issue with her breast cancer had very little to do with genetics and more to do with the fact that I had never bred her or allowed her “nurse” and never spayed her either. I had her inside (she was very tiny) and in honesty, I had no clue that not allowing a small breed to nurse at least once or be spayed BEFORE the first heat could contribute to breast cancer in any small breed dog. When my heart was ready to consider getting another dog, I immediately began looking for cross breeds and NOT a full breed dog due to the shared behavior issues and health issues of most full breed dogs and the experience I had with them. I came across the Yorkie Poo. I knew I wanted a small dog, one that shed very little (In the ten years I had my little Dixie in the house, I developed an allergy to pet hair and took a zertec every night for years to breathe, Dixie was a part of our family and I was allergic to her and nothing helped, no matter how much I dusted and vacuumed.) So I knew I wanted a small dog, who was content being inside, a dog that shed very little due to my allergies, and I also wanted a dog that was smart enough to train, easy to housebreak and wasn’t a breed known for a cluster of particular health issues that the Shih’tzu’s had. The Yorkie poo is small, and makes a great inside pet. It does NOT shed except when brushing or grooming the way human hair does and the dog breed was said to be hardy, suffering few health issues- hybrid vigor was the word used. This mix breed seemed as if it was everything I was looking for. The poodle is known for its intelligence and ease to teach. The yorkie is known for being too cute for words, spunky and yet sometimes too stubborn and hard headed to be house broken or made to behave—but THEY ARE THE CUTEST THINGS EVER. By crossing the two breeds you have a dog that sheds very little due to the fact that the coats of both breeds shed minimal amounts only when brushing or grooming-you also have a dog that is easy to train and extremely smart like the poodle and it off sets the stubborn rebellious traits in the yorkie. The only problem with a first generation Yorkie-Poo (the F1 classification) is the pot luck mix of colors and coat types or “look” your yorkie poo may have. One litter may have pups of all colors, from black to white, parti, red, and black and tan. Some may have wiry hair, some fluffy and others stringy or soft, even more may resemble a yorkie coat but the hair will not grow properly because of the slight poodle wave to the texture. Some black yorkie poos may have their fur grow out and become a red tint, others turn gray or silver in the first year. At six weeks when you get your puppy-you have NO standard to tell what they coat may end up looking like. They are all fuzzy fluff balls at that age. I did get a yorkie poo- and fell in LOVE. She was every bit of both breeds. We named her Diva because she did get the prissy poodle trait, while being a picky eater like yorkies are known for. She is extremely smart like the poodle, training her to do anything was as simple as showing her a treat. She can dance, walk around on her back legs, play fetch, ring bells and go “find” what every objects she understands you are telling her to go get. Her human like smartness still amazes me sometimes. She stayed small like her AKC yorkie father, weighing just over 7 pounds full grown. Her black coat was fluffy as a puppy- but grew into a coat that was the one down side of the mix of her breed. The coat was more like a yorkie coat from the face, to mid back. From mid back to tail, it is wavy, fluffy and already turning steal blue…I am hoping the face and upper body has just not caught up yet in fading, or I will have a two toned doggie. LOL. The coat texture and undesirable mix of the poodle and yorkie coat that Diva genetically received is easily managed with grooming and using a cut that keeps the hair just long enough it doesn’t appear so visible to be fuller in one area than the other. There are no words to explain how smart this dog is, or how loving. On her 3rd heat, I decided to breed her. One in order to keep a puppy and the other reason was to cut her risk of breast cancer later due to the issue with my other small dog. I had considered spaying her before her first heat, but she surprised us and actually went into her first heat before she was six months old. When I began to consider breeding my yorkie-poo, I got online to learn as much as I could. I was disgusted with all the negative comments from breeders of “pure breed dogs” It was almost impossible to learn anything about the breed or how to do it properly and not be one of those people accused of breeding some MUTT and calling it a “designer dog” in a back yard kennel. The first thing I learned was the difference between F1, F2 F3 and so on and cross back breeding to produce F1B yorkie poos. To breed a yorkie poo to another yorkie poo is called an F2. That litter will give you less of what ever hybrid vigor the F1 may produce while still giving you the pot luck surprise on colors, coats and traits of the two breeds. Breeding my yorkie poo back to a yorkie poo didn’t seem like a good way to go about reproducing the traits I cherish in my Diva dog, while hoping to weed out a few coat and color issues that were passed down from mixing the breed. I was lucky that both of Diva’s parents, the sire and dam were AKC registered. Her mother was a cream poodle and her father was a blue Yorkie. I also knew the grandparents color history, the dam’s mother was a blue poodle, so that along with the yorkie's “fading gene” was passed from her father and her mother through the grandmother and is what produced the fading effect with my dog, as she is changing from black to blue steel color in her coat. My goal was to attempt to improve the texture to something more predictable with her first litter of puppies. A few months later, I had done enough research to feel confident about breeding when she went into another heat. (all of the screaming breeders, putting people down for breeding mixed dogs, decided to breed out of a LOVE for that particular breed type they own…I love the yorkie poo and see no difference trying to improve upon what two full breed dogs pass down. To say breeding a mixed breed is wrong, but inbreeding father to child in pure breds is considered bettering the breed line?) I decided to cross back my yorkie poo to a full blooded AKC yorkie who will also carry the fading blue gene. From all my research I learned by breeding back, I could reproduce a more consistent coat that would take after the yorkie and hopefully keep Diva’s traits passed to her from her poodle mother. The stud we used is a spunky yorkie who shares similar traits to my Diva in behavior, although he is NOT a picky eater as she is, but a little more stubborn in other areas, where my yorkie poo Diva is very trainable and intelligent from her poodle mother. The breeding took and we were blessed with five puppies. Their puppies are now just a little under a week old. All five puppies weighed anywhere from 4 ounces to the biggest who came out at 6 ounces. Two puppies are marked exactly like a full blooded black and tan yorkie, their points are even marked as AKC standards say they should be. And this is called a MUTT by some on this board and others. One has a white blaze on her chest as well, and small enough I expect it to fade during growth. The other three puppies appeared to be solid black to me at birth, one with a slight white blaze on chest, the other two with a white star on chest-at four days old, upon closer inspection, they do appear to be a solid blue/black all over, but upon really looking good at them today while Diva was out of the whelping box and eating—there are tiny specks of brown around the mouth of one and the legs of the other two. I am in love with all five of them and don’t know how I will manage to keep only one. I can’t wait to see if the coat texture turns out like the yorkie and if their personality is indeed the best of the two breeds. Yorkie poos are amazing dogs-just reseach the parents and grandparents which should not be hard being as both are from a FULL BLOODED AKC breed- if you do your homework in that area and dont reproduce dogs with KNOWN genetic issues, your not being an irrisponsible breeder. Worse to me would be the breeders of pure bred dogs, who in trying to work a problem out of their line, end up with inbreeding and producing puppies with recessive genes that cause problems with the puppies they sell,just trying to perfect their generational line. SOmetimes they get it right and manage to keep good traits, but often they end up with puppies out there whom they have sold and the owners then breed their AKC registered dog back to other pure bred dog with the same genetic issues and bam..a whole litter of puppies are going to go blind at four years old or have another health issue that is working its way through the breed. If your yorkie poo is legit and I mean by legit that its parents are ON site for you to see or you have a way of contacting the stud owner for papers and registeration information, if the dam is all that the breeder has on site, and you can prove your yorkie poo is a F1 meaning first generation, then all the info on the two full blooded pure bred registered parents should be at your disposal-when or if you get ready to breed a yorkie poo, I agree with not breeding to another yorkie poo, because the double mix produces the same pot luck of colors, genitic issues, coat problems, skin problems and so on...without the same benifits of hybred breeding to work out health issues in a pure bred dog or behaviour issues known for certian breeds of dogs. If your yorkie poo took after the poodle in coat texture and color but has the spirit of the yorkie and is a little stubborn or hard headed and you are looking for a mix that learns quicker and is easier to train, then cross breed back to a REGISTERED full blooded poodle. This F1B yorkie poo has the better chance to keep the poodle coat, the colors of the poodle, and while keeping the spunk and attitude of the yorkie, more of the poodle traits of intelligence will be cross bred back into the yorkie poo pups. Or if you dog is like mine, very smart, very prissy and picky like the poodle, but with an inconsistant coat, solid like a poodle, wavy without curl but textured like the yorkie, then breed back to an AKC registered yorkie for better coat markings and points and add in a little more of the yorkie personality to offset the snooty or pickiness of the poodle, and keep the intellegence from your yorkie poo within the pups. In an F1B I have the registered history of my yorki poos parents, and the AKC registered history of the AKC Yorkie sire that I brought in to stud, along with his parents AKC breed history as well. So my five little puppies are far from MUTTS- they are a legit Poodle/Yorkshire hybred mix-I wont make a dime off the puppies, as I am keeping one, and have family members who have begged for a dog like my Diva-
I have one Yorkie-poo and he is 4 years old he is 6 lb to 7 lbs. I feel like so called mutts as I have seen posted on this site has been truly given a bad name. Mixed breed dogs I feel are better to train and so much loving then a full breed dog. My Yorkie I am still trying to get her to stop going to the bathroom in the house and she still forgets. She is a loving dog but she sometimes seems not to be that smart when it comes to training her. She is a female she is 5 lb. Now she just had a puppy and I was unaware she was pregnant because she didn't do any of the things my research said her behavior would show. So I was shocked when I came home and she had gave birth to a puppy. I was scared and I rushed her to the vet. The vet said she was fine and she had did all she could do as a mother Yorkie. So her puppy came out white. So I believe that my Yorkie-poo who is black with a white patch on his chest must have come from a white poodle. My Yorkie-poo is very healthy he is very sweet, cuddle and just the best lap dog ever. I believe the dogs that have all the health problems are not being taking care of by their owners and the breeders they got their animals from have did some crossbreeding or not taking the puppies through the proper testing to see if they are healthy to breed. I am going to get my dog fixed ASAP. Because I bought them to be my pets not to breed. I miscalculated and was watching for my female dog to have a period and show signs of being in heat and the signs I saw on the internet didn't happened. So I not going to have that problem again. I feel like if you want to breed dogs it is your right but keep in mind it is costly and it takes a lot of time and responsibility. You have to be a responsible pet owner and do research and have a great vet. As far as where I live small breed dogs are hard to come by they are very expensive and people have problems affording them so they go to puppy mills which I hate but I can't do anything about it all I can do is be a responsible pet owner and try to educate people and let them know what resources out their they can use to make proper decisions.
Where do you guys think most of the "purebreds" came from in the first place? Just about all of the AKC breeds were bred from a variety of breeds in the first place? Do you think your "Australian Shepherd" is really from Australia? They were bred from several different herding breeds in the 19th and early 20th century in North America. Most of the purebreds out there were created at some time or another to get the best qualities. Perhaps you should read the History of some of these "purebreds". (Even the Yorkshire Terrier was once a mixed breed.) The new "designer dogs" as they call them are just newer breeds that haven't been recognized by the AKC yet. The Yorkie Poos, Golden Doodles, Cocker Poos, etc.. are wonderful pets that deserve to be recognized as a specialized breed. They all came from "purebred" Poodles and "purebred" Yorkies, Spaniels, Retrievers, etc...
My Yorkie Poo is the most intelligent, lovable, best looking dog I've ever had. He's going on 12 years old and still acts like a puppy. He's in perfect health, pretty much trained himself, and obeys instantly. He even watches TV as if he knows what's going on. He has memorized the music to all of the commercials that have animals in them and will come running from another room to sit and watch that commercial as soon as he hears the music, just to see the animal. Then he grabs his busy bone in his mouth (that's his favorite treat that he's never without) and sits in front of the TV watching until the commercial is over. He usually will lay in front of the TV all evening with me and my husband and watch the TV. He even moves his head back and forth like a person would who was watching up close. He doesn't shed AT ALL and he has the most beautiful, soft coat.
I would be blessed to have one of his offspring after he's gone. He's most definitely NOT a mutt.