I don't want to give anyone the impression that I live in a tiny house its about 1100 sq feet, just not enough room with my furniture and appliance to permanetley keep up a crate. I'm almost sorry I posted my question, because i feel like its turned into a place to argue instead of a place for me to get information.
Don't feel like that. This is a wonderful place to get great tips and advice from experienced dog owners, dog lovers, breeders and handlers/trainers. Don't let people give you a bad impression. No one wants to argue but we each have our own opinions...that's what makes us unique!
Some people find a tempting question and then they register right away so they can put an answer down. They travel from post to post with the same repitious nonsense. Eventually, they go away but just try and read what each person is saying and then you decide what you need to do as far as your situation.
Best of luck!
Friends will step in when the rest of the world steps out.
Yes, you should not feel bad. I recently joined and everyone on here has been very helpful. You get the occasional stray person who thinks they know everything about everything and wants to put down or argue someone to death, but like ox said, they eventually do leave and there is peace on the forums again. Everyone has really great ideas and are very supportive here. Don't let one person ruin a place you can really get good advice from. Hope you keep coming back. And BTW I also use a crate for my new puppy at night only, I keep him in the kitchen during the day when I am gone or busy (he is still training) and he is as happy as he can be. I also have to drag him out of his crate in the mornings. They love it. Try it, if you don't agree you can always sell the crate or not use it. good luck.
Lukas...please don't feel a crate is doggie jail. Max loves his crate. If I am in the kitchen looking for my purse,shoes whatever, he goes right to his crate and lays there waiting for his treat. He is wagging his tail and happy. A crate provides comfort for you dog while you are unavailable. Max is Lab/Rott...I wouldn't leave him alone for a minute. I like my house intact and I care about him. I think the crate is the best way. It sure beats putting him outside in a cage....He will be happier in the long run. (and safer)...Best of luck. P.S. When Max was first in his crate I would turn the radio on low for him...lol
Well baby gates seem to be doing the trick. I have been wearing him out playing frisbee before I go to work, then I keep him penned in the kitchen with his bed, blanket, toys, and of course food and water bowls. The last couple of days when my daughter gets home from practice she says hes sleeping like a baby. Thanks to all for your advice, I'm sure I'll be back for more.
Thats great you found something that works. Though in time he may learn he can jump the gates, or knock them down with a few nose pushes.
Crates are a great tool when used properly and not as punishment the dogs truly end up loving them. Even with the doors open, mine will go in and sleep in theirs.
A collapsable one is easy to set up and tear down, so will not take a long time to put up and down each time once you get the hang of it. Folds flat and can prop against the wall or go into a closet easily too. Come in all different sizes. I have them small enough for our Min Pins and large enough for our Dobe.
Good luck, and hope you stick around. We get into monor disagreements here at times, but we try to keep it pleasant and informative...and when its not mods step in to tone it down.
Really is a great group here once you learn to read past some of the trolls, lol.
I was really surprised because he can and will hop over the picket fence we have in the yard. If someones not out there and the kids forget to put him on the tie down. But so far he hasn't tried to jump the baby gates. Hopefully this will work for a while.
I'm glad you avoided the crate nonsense. The dog doesn't jump the gate because you made it clear that you don't Want it to cross the line the gate sits on. It's not the gate that's stopping it, it's the meaning you imparted to the gate when you put it there. I would bet you now could teach the dog not to cross the threshold without the gate even being there. To do this you can replace the gate with several pieces of masking tape, and reduce the height and number of pieces of tape over time to where there is just one flat piece on the floor. You'll amaze yourself how well this works.
Calmassertive, is it your goal in life to continually tick people off? Thinking that must be how you get your jollies.. shoving one form of training down people's throats when denigrating other, well proven forms. The bottom line is that pets, like people all have their own quirks. What may work well for some, will not work at all for others.
Providing options and allowing inexperienced owners several methods to try until the "right fit" is found is the best way to assist.
Millan was not present that day. The owner's own trainer was, and it was the owner's trainer who incorrectly connected the dog to the treadmill and then left it unattended. Millan's only mistake was doing the owner's hand-picked lame 'professional' a favor. The owner should have sued his Own trainer, but his lawyer went after Millan's deep pockets instead.
Millan's show has included dozens of episodes over the years where he shows dog owners how to PROPERLY and SAFELY give their happy dogs much-needed energy-draining exercise.
That lawsuit was dropped two years ago, but I'm sure you already knew all that. So with all due respect, why hijack this nice lady's sincere request for information with this unrelated rant?
Perhaps my "unrelated" rant as you term it is to point out to you that there are different opinions as to the whole worshiping of one and only one method of training while denigrating all others, such as you have done?
As you have pointed out, unless Milan's methods are followed exactly, they can in fact prove disastrous even in the hands of a trained professional. Yet you feel the need to consistently promote only this form of training for a new pet owner while claiming any other method is less than worthy.
You also fail to acknowledge your return after having had your user name banned by another mod for your persistently rude behavior.
"Some days you're the dog; some days you're the hydrant". author unknown
CalmASS, I just have to ask, why are you so against crate training? Have you had a bad experience with them? I really think you have been misinformed by someone that crates are a bad thing. Dogs are den animals, and enjoy being in their crate when introduced to it properly. Not to mention, it is a safe place for them to be when they cannot be watched.
Animals, what animals? My children just have alot of hair!
Is there not a way to ban this guys IP? I mean seriously, people coming to this forum for advice does not need to see us all arguing at one guy who is narrow minded. It is nonsense that should be elsewhere. He probably enjoys getting all of you upset. So don't let him. It really isn't worth it. People reading these posts can see, if they read them, that all of you guys are very helpful and see which methods really work. So lets be nice, it may work.
The only way to ban an IP is to have admin do so. This is simply another example of a banned troll returning with slightly differing user names.
Trust me, he hasn't made me angry. When I'm angry there's really no guessing involved.
I find his comments ignorant and possibly hazardous in the hands of an inexperienced owner.
While becoming pack leader is all well and good, when leaving a curious & active puppy home without supervision, there are a myriad of potentially lethal situations which can be avoided by the use of proper & safe containment. Electric cords, toxic materials (including plants), heavy objects that can be dislodged to fall on the pup, becoming trapped without access to water... many things can and often DO go wrong.
If you are an expert and wish to promote your method of training, set up a site and assume the responsibility. Using a free forum to promote a method that is not meant for inexperienced owners with no immediate support is not only ignorant, it is potentially dangerous.
"Some days you're the dog; some days you're the hydrant". author unknown