Hello, I am considering buying a 1 yr old female (non spayed) and as per the arrangement with the breeder will allow a couple of breedings with her before possibly spaying. The breeder will be taking care of the female during the heat period for the first 10-12 days. Then subsequently, the female would be with us until a week before the pregnancy until the puppies are 6-8 weeks old.
I wanted to understand the responsibilities & chores, please let me know your thoughts:
- How many times do females get to the heat period? (twice a year?) - How long does it last? - What are the chores required doing this period? - Is it easy to spay a female after she has breed a couple of times? - What are the responsibilities after the female is impregnated? - How long does the pregnancy last? - How difficult is it to transport the female when she is close to pregnancy?
Most of it is really easy, the breeder is taking on most of the hard part. A bitch can get moody, not feel good, etc. when pregnant, just like a women. The heats last about a month, and most dogs do well cleaning themselves except during sleep. They tend to stain the area in which they sleep while they are bleeding. Diapers work great if the dog is to sleep with you. She may have the potty more in advanced stages of pregnancy, and she can atrack intact males from miles away while she is in heat.
The big dangers are infections, and unwanted pregnancies.
Honestly, it sounds like the breeder is using you. I would look elsewhere for a dog. My understanding is, most breeder adopt out older dog after they've had 2 or 3 litters. They don't farm them out so they can breed more litters. They could also be using this as a way to skirt kennel licensing.
Could you explain this arrangement a little better?
You are buying the female. The female lives with you except for the first 12 days of her heat cycle at which time she goes to the breeders home and she breeds her. You then get the female back and she stays with you and you do all the whelping and raising of the pups?
Who gets the puppies born of these litters? Does she retain one or the entire litter both times she is bred?
Are you the one asking to spay her, or is the breeder requiring she be spayed once the 2 litters are whelped and weaned?
It seems a bit unclear as to the exact arrangement here but sounds like you are not getting the best of the deal. If you are not a breeder and do not want to raise pups, either tell the "breeder" that you would perfer to have her spayed or look for another dog. You can check with any shelter/rescue program and I guarantee you will find endless possibilities for obtaining a great fur friend.
Best of luck!
Friends will step in when the rest of the world steps out.
I would not engage in contract like this either. But fair is what you agree to.
Whelping a litter is a pain in the arse. They pups will bark at all hours of the night. getting louder as they get older. If I were to engage in this practise, The breeder would be responsible for all bills, including gas of my vehicle, and have to pay me, with either a puppy or the price of one puppy. Which for me is about a grand a dog. Spaying a female after breeding is no harder than if she was not bred. pregnant dogs can travel just fine...just have to stop for more pee breaks as the pregnancy goes on.
I believe a dog's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment he holds dear, is when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle-with a ball in his mouth."
People on here always give risk of health problems (including death) as one reason NOT to breed. Has the breeder included in the agreement what happens if the bitch were to die as a result of whelping? Seems fishy to me.
The breeder will be taking care of the female during the heat period for the first 10-12 days. Then subsequently, the female would be with us until a week before the pregnancy until the puppies are 6-8 weeks old.
States the breeder will have her for the heat cycle...likely so she can do the breeding to the male she chooses and be sure she is properly cared for during the pregnancy, then the dog returns to the new owner 1 week prior to whelping and the pups go to breeder at 6-8 wks of age.
"Sounds like a normal contract to me. Many breeders do this so they can provide a normal family environment for their dogs and not a kennel one."
What kind of breeders do this? Honest, responsible breeders or breeders looking to breed as much as possible so they can make more money? I honestly think that if a breeder has so many dogs, they can't provide them with a "normal, family environment," they need to scale back. I wouldn't want a dog from that kind of situation.
I disagree that it is common, if, of course I am reading it properly that the new owner is to do all the whelping and weaning of 2 litters for the original owner.
Any owner, who cares about their dogs, would not send their girl to be cared for and litter of puppies whelped by someone who has no clue about the process. If the breeder is doing the whelping,that makes more sense.
This does occur with breeders. The new family will surrender the bitch during the entire heat period and also one week before the pups are whelped and the 6 weeks post partum, then the bitch will be returned to the new family. The new family has no responsibility for the care of the pups. The pups will be whelped at the breeders and raised there. When weaned the bitch goes home to new family. Sounds like an Ok arrangement, but I agree, be sure to provide that the breeder is responsible for all vet bills should there be a complication or spontaneous abortion while in the new family's care. They shouldn't be burdened with vet bills related to the pregnancy at all, I had a vet bill of 1400.00 when my bitch aborted 11 days before whelping. I would draw up a contract with all the conditions listed and signed before a notary. Be sure to include:
what breeder wants the bitch to be fed
what vet to take her to in an emergency
That an open consent is on file with that vet and agreement to pay, preferable with a credit card by phone arrangement
Compensation if the bitch dies due to pregnancy
Specific number of breedings due to the breeder ( I would suggest no more than 3)