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Medicating dog
problems taking pain meds
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Posted: 8:45:36 AM 6/25/2010
My dog is now on Medcam and I am not having that much of a problem with him taking it. However the pain medications were switch several times and he just won't take it. They even took the pill and made it into liquid and still won't take it. I'm exhausted from trying.I can't afford all these changes, its so expensive.We have tried every trick in the book for these pain medications to be taken,its a lost cause,
My question: Is there an over-the-counter childrens pain medication with a flavor that he won't resist that is safe to administer to him
The last pill was tramdol...no luck not even in liquid form
Thanks in advance for any advice
scout1
Posted: 9:09:16 AM 6/25/2010
Have you tried pill pockets ?
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karibear08
Posted: 9:51:07 AM 6/25/2010
Sorry you're having such a tough time. Tramadol is an actual painkiller (narcotic) and not really anything like what you are asking about. You also wouldn't want to use anything like that with Metacam usually or you are more likely than not to end up with liver/kidney trouble.
Any way of flavoring actual liquid tramadol if you think that may help? I have a girl that will not take any sort of dissolved pills. Given with treats or canned food or nutri-stat or something or getting into a routine of allowing that or something else they really want only after they take their medicine or the pill pockets Scout mentioned? Sometimes we just have to be really creative and really patient.
Posted: 10:05:58 AM 6/25/2010
We have tried everything. The vet can't believe how he's on to us.
he loves his treats, but now won't touch them, because since I used the pill pockets,he smells everything. I won't put it in his food, because I'm afraid he'll never eat it again...lol
It's been days since he touch his favorite treat,because he thinks somethings in it.
The vet did add a flavor to the pill and still he is a problem. It must taste really nasty because he swings his head and drools as if he is saying "yuk" and for the first time he barked and snarled at me
I don't think he's in pain. he walks around a little,biggest problem is getting up, but he does it.Eating good.But I would like to get a little pain medicine in him once in a while. He goes to sleep at 7pm every nite and sleeps all night till 5am. Naps in the afternoon for about an hour.Other than the arthritis in hind legs I think he's doing good for 16 years old
Thank you for your replies
Posted: 10:26:43 AM 6/25/2010
I am suprised you are having problems giving Medacam, most dogs like the taste. I would see if your vet uses a compounding pharmacy that can compound a medication into a flavored liquid. These pharmacies can do so much now.
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Posted: 11:16:17 AM 6/25/2010
He likes Medacam...it's the tramadol and others that he dislikes
I never seen anything like this. The vet can't believe that we can't fool him.
Posted: 12:14:46 PM 6/25/2010
Somewhere I read that if you touch the pill with your hands, then your hands have that scent on them and whatever you try to hide the pill in such as pill pocket or cheese,etc. will pick up the traces of scent from your hands. Try something new and very yummy, but don't touch the pill, try using gloves to touch it or tweezers, or whatever you can think of. Beware of transferring scent with your hands.
Of course, your dog may simply be able to smell the pill within the treats, not necessarily from your hands. In that case, I would try something really smelly like canned tripe to "overpower" the scent of the pill. good luck
schoolbus gal
Posted: 10:30:10 PM 6/25/2010
What breed of dog is this?
karma88
Posted: 11:53:33 PM 6/25/2010
Have you tried opening his mouth and putting the pill at the back of his mouth then close it fast hold it closed with his head tipped back and rub his throat till he swallows it. Also with some that are very stubborn blowing lightly in the nose well doing the above steps will make them swallow. I have a couple dogs that will not take any meds and find them in anything this is the only way I can get it in them. I dread liquid meds they just spit them out.
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lpn169
Posted: 9:06:59 PM 6/26/2010
Tramadol (aka Ultram) is a pain reliever, but is NOT a narcotic.
Metacam is an anti-inflamatory pain reliever. I am surprised your vet would prescribe for both of these meds to be given together.

Were they ordered to be given at the same time, or did he initially have the dog on Metacam, then later prescribe the Tramadol?

I would call and confirm that they are to both be given.

Mixing it in a bit of canned food has always been all I ever needed to get them to take meds. If all else fails, the liquid can be given via syringe into the mouth. Pills can be crshed and added to a meat or canned food that you know they will eat such as Braunsweiger.
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karibear08
Posted: 9:32:48 AM 6/27/2010
I think you are right about the narcotic part. I come here while I'm waking up usually. My apologies. When I did a search some said narcotic and some said narcotic like and apparently is controlled in some places and not in others. I tried to check the drug handbook but can't seem to find it though I don't have the latest version and maybe I just can't see straight yet. I can't call anyone at 6 yet and ask if they have to log it either, lol, but would still just be here if they do. Maybe if Scout comes back across in the meantime. Do you have to log it where you are? Now I'm curious.
We use both together but test and I also tend to use a smaller dose of Tramadol but we don't use it over any long period of time, just on and off as needed.
Posted: 12:45:08 PM 6/30/2010
Hi everyone

I stopped giving my dog the tramadol,it just wasn't agreeing with him. The metacam is just fine. Now I have a new problem. I do not believe my dog is in any pain. he gets up in the morning at 6. he eats, does his business and everything is fine until around 11am then he does this huffing and puffing,which he has always done all his life until he gets what he wants. He continues doing this for about an hour or so,then he lays down and naps for an hour.When he gets up from his nap, he is fine until around 5:30pm. he starts in again. Around 7pm I take him in the yard to do his business and give him his medacam. He then goes in his bed and sleeps till 6 am
Can anyone figure this huffing and puffing out,is it anxiety? I am going out of my mind to please him. I am so stressed, I keep thinking maybe its time to put him to sleep, but he is fine in every other way.
Any suggestions?
lpn169
Posted: 1:50:42 AM 7/1/2010
Been a nurse for many years and Tramadol is non-narcotic. It is not a controlled drug. It is not logged or counted with the narcotics. In fact, Ultram is kept with the rest of the med cards right along with things like sinemet and senna.

Ultram is best used when given routinely rather than a prn basis like you would do with a narcotic drug.

Metacam is a wonderful drug as well for arthritis type issues and would actually be more preferred in those cases due to Metacam's anti-inflammatory abilities :)
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