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racing greyhounds and the cruelty behind it~Old topic
this is insane
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Posted: 4:33:13 PM 8/6/2004
http://www.hsus.org/ace/21143 what do you guys think. i had no idea this was going on!
Posted: 4:38:11 PM 8/6/2004
I live about 20 miles away from a greyhound track here in Alabama.
Posted: 5:03:52 PM 8/6/2004
as wilth any propaganda put out by the HSUS this story is filled with exagerations and inaccuracies. do not always believe what you read, especially when it is put out by an extremist organization.
Posted: 5:05:23 PM 8/6/2004
I have to admit that I enjoy going to one of two nearby dog racing tracks on occasion. I also looked into adopting a greyhound. It's not like all the retired racers and slower dogs are slaughtered as the article suggests. Many are adopted and given good homes.That having been said, it is sad when a 5 year old retired racing dog has to be taught how to climb stairs and play with toys never having seen either. I see nothing wrong with the actual racing procedure. The dogs seem to enjoy chasing the electronic bunny and the actual racers are kept in top physical condition. I wish that every culled dog could find a loving home and that the racing dogs were kept like pets when not at the track but I do not intend to stop patronizing the establishments.
Posted: 5:10:25 PM 8/6/2004
yeah that's true...they made claims agianst the iditrod. which is a fablous race and great showing of what a dog in action can accomplish. it is grueling and last year one count em' up one dog died while competeing. it started to bleed internally and had to be put down. that is a jump from the 21 dogs that died in the first one. and agian it wasn't the race that did it. usually animal abuse was the killer
Posted: 5:32:02 PM 8/6/2004
The thing that is so strange about greyhound kennels that operate like those described on the site is that treating the dogs poorly is not in the best interest of someone who wants to have top performing dogs. Sled dog racers have figured out that healthy, well-adjusted dogs perform better and more consistently than those who are treated poorly and are in poor health. I recently met a guy who had adopted of couple of retired racing greyhounds. He got the dogs directly through the kennel rather than through a rescue organization. He was able to visit the kennel, and the dogs there lived in good conditions. They were healthy and well socialized. The guy didn't need to teach his adoptees what toys were or work on taking the dogs in public because the dogs had been through all of that stuff as puppies. And sure enough, that particular kennel consistently produces winning dogs because the dogs are happy and healthy.
Posted: 5:44:14 PM 8/6/2004
Yeah I agree with protodog, I've never been to the greyhound tracks but it's definitely not in a racing kennel owner's best interest to keep the dogs in poor condition. Obviously they want the dogs to be as healthy as possible so the dog has a better chance of winning. Here's a website that shows the other side of the coin. http://www.ngagreyhounds.com/ Pay particular attention to hte links for adoptions and animal welfare to the left.
Posted: 5:57:02 PM 8/6/2004
I did a little digging around and came up with these statistics. During the year 2003, more than 26,000 greyhounds were registered. 18,000 placed in adoptive homes, and 5,000 went back to farms to be used as breeding animals and pets. So about 90% of greyhounds end up beign adopted out or going back the farms.
Posted: 6:08:22 PM 8/6/2004
I am happy to see that most the folks here are aware of and can see the disinformation put out by folks like the HSUS. good job folks and put your money where your mind is, do not support companies that support these orginizations that have to lie to get donations.
Posted: 7:05:22 PM 8/6/2004
"it's definitely not in a racing kennel owner's best interest to keep the dogs in poor condition. Obviously they want the dogs to be as healthy as possible so the dog has a better chance of winning. " i do not know much about greyhound racing so i will not comment on that but i do know that in the horse racing world, there is a ton of abuse that goes on. what you say makes sence to you and me but unfortunately that is not the way it goes.
Posted: 7:17:29 PM 8/6/2004
The Greyhound racing industry over breeds dogs in an attempt to produce champions. Thus only 30% of the newborns will ever become racers: 20,000-28,000 surplus greyhounds are destroyed each year. I've worked with the AZ Greyhound Protection Alliance, and I assure you they are not another one of your so-call tree hugging, radical, animal activists groups. Because of them, inhumane treatment of greyhounds is now against the law. I would eventually like to see Greyhound racing placed in the same catagory as cockfighting and dogfighting. It's cruel and inhumane. Here's a couple of sites where you can see the true nature behind Greyhound racing. I assure you, 90% are not being adopted. http://www.grey2kusa.org/Racing/index.html http://www.lcanimal.org/cmpgn/cmpgn_011.htm Don't believe anything on a website by the Greyhound Racing Industry. They're great for "sugar-coating" the true story behind the racing industry.
Posted: 7:34:36 PM 8/6/2004
So Sad ;-( OMG MINNIYAR! you live really close to me the greyhound track is about 45 mins from me tho
Posted: 9:00:14 PM 8/6/2004
pitpatz they never said that 90% were being adopted out.
Posted: 9:07:27 PM 8/6/2004
I live about 10 minutes from a greyhound track here in Texas. I can tell you that on the times I've been you are able to go outside and see the dogs. I have a friend that used to work security there and he got us back in to see the dogs and they were all treated very well. I'm not saying that is how it is everywhere, but neither are all bad. The greyhound adoption here is very strong and they make definate attempts to adopt them out after they retire. I hope to get one someday.
Posted: 9:29:12 PM 8/6/2004
I've heard similar things about the track in Shorter, Alabama. But I've never been there to check it out.
Posted: 12:56:39 AM 8/7/2004
having two animals fight and animals running in a circle totally two different ball games. I don't think the sport it self is inhumane. the treatment of the animals was my concern
Posted: 1:30:22 AM 8/7/2004
It would be my guess that there are good and back owners/tracks. Just depends on the people I guess. I don't think racing is inhumane either, but if the dogs aren't cared for that's another story.
Posted: 7:15:13 AM 8/7/2004
I live in south wales and there are greyhound race tracks aruond here, my family and i will never go to greyhound races for the sake of winning money! >:-( i am angry! Greyhounds areone of my faveourite breeds and here in races they are used for the purpous(sp) of money making! oh i wish i could do something to ban Greyhound racing!
Posted: 1:05:55 PM 8/7/2004
gunny states that two animals fighting and having animals running in circles are different. Approx 100,000 rabbits and small animals are used as live bait to teach dogs to chase lures around the track. Rabbits are hung from horizontal poles and the dogs are encouraged to chase and kill them .Less aggressive dogs are placed in a cage with a small animal and not released or fed until they kill it. Gina states that racing is not inhumane. Racing greyhounds are kept in cages, crates, or pens for approx. 22 hrs. each day. Most of them are 3x3 and are not climate-controlled. They suffer through extreme heat and cold. They are almost always muzzled. They are fed raw rancid 4-D meat, (Dying, diseased, disabled, and dead livestock), causing the greyhound to suffer gastroenteritis, E.coli, Alabama rot, and death. Tthey are denid basic Vet care. They are forced to race when injured or ill. Ailments to racers are: broken legs, parasites, heat stroke, heart attack, starvation, and dehydration. They are injected with anabolic steroids before races. Minniyar states 90% end up being adopted out or going back to the farm. Retired greyhounds too sick or injured to race are killed immediately, abandoned, sent to farms to breed, sold to research facilities, or sent to foreign racetracks in underdeveloped countries. They are killed by: gunshot, euthanasia, electrocuted, gassing, abandonment, starvation, and bludgeoning. In 2002 in Lillian Alabama, a man was arrested for killing 3,000 greyhounds for profit. He was paid $10 per dog and it cost him only 4 cents a bullet. Investigators found the dogs shot once in the head and neck. Greyhound racing is a short-term investment to owners with a huge profit margin.
Posted: 2:16:39 PM 8/7/2004
i'm not against racing, but i am obviously against poor treatment as any feeling person would be. it doesn't make sense to me either to treat dogs poorly, not only that being cruel, but to race well a dog would have to be healthy. giving steroids had never even occurred to me. i don't see harm in racing around a track if the dog is given a good life with all the good care a dog should have. but with making money there will always be people who mistreat dogs to try to get their money and save a buck on care. i think it would be hard to get accurate statistics on how many dogs are mistreated and how many are treated well because people would hide the mistreatment and show only good treatment.
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