The guy that obedience trained my golden and pug called today to see if he could take Rusty (my golden) to the convention center to use in a demonstration of his obedience techniques. He calls Rusty his star student. Ok, I'm bragging a little. He came over to get him and my chi who hadn't met him before ran under the table and was shaking. She's never done this with anyone before. She's very outgoing and not a nervous dog at all. He says it's because he's black and she has never seen a black person before. Do you think that's true? Do they really know and if so, what difference does it make? I thought it just might be because he tends to talk pretty loud, but then again my kids can be loud too. Just wondering.
I guess I didn't realize they knew the difference. But, the reference to uniforms definately makes since. I have certainly heard of that before. I was just curious. Ok, one more question, don't bite my head off, I should know, but I don't for sure. Is it true dogs are color blind. Personally I don't think they are because it certainly seems like my dogs can distinguish colors, treats, toys, etc. But I have read that before and am not sure. BTW, if they are, how do we know?
Dogs are largely color blind. It's likely that your dogs know the toys by their shape and smell than by their color. We know dogs are pretty muchc olor blind because of the things that show color and light in the actual eye, rods and cones. Rods help distinguish between light and dark, and cones help distinguish between colors. Rods also help the periphery of vision, making it easier to detect movement. Humans have about an equal mixture of both, which means we see fairly well in light and we see in color. If you think about it, the darker it is, the less humans are able to determine the color of things. That's because at night, our rods come into play and take precidence over the cones. Cats and dogs have far more rods than they do cones, which explains why they can see so much better at night than humans. But it also means they have less ability to distinguish colors from each other. They may see *some* colors but they are probably very muted, like everything is overlaid with a shade of grey.
In all sincerity, you are so smart. How on earth do you know all these different things? Everything you said makes perfect since, but leads me to another question: sorry :) If they are largely color blind then how would they know he was different? Is it just by smell? If so, then I would assume to a dog that everyone smells different, so why just him? He brought Rusty home a few minutes ago and she did the same thing. It is just so out of character for her.
Stephen Budiansky's book "The Truth about Dogs" contains a few pictures of how dogs probably see color. He puts side by side two versions of the same picture, one that shows color the way we see it and one that shows how dogs would likely see it. The dog versions have some color in them but look overcast in a February kind of way (if that makes any sense). The next time you're in a book store, you might want to take a look at the pictures. They're easy to find, so you won't have to buy the book if you don't want to.
If a dog hasnt' been exposed to anyone who's black, then yes it is highly likely that is why she was so timid around him. In fact, I have a friend who's dog is truly a racist. When he was a small puppy, some african american children in the neighborhood would come up and throw rocks at him. He never forgot or forgave, and now views all black folk with the same suspicion and anger, even though we've tried to expose this dog to them in a positive manner. He's also not that fond of kids, though he's not dangerous around them.
How interesting. I will look at that book. My sister has a yorkie that was tormented to no end by the neighbor's kid. He threw rocks over the fence and so on. That dog never forgot either. She never liked to be around kids. Never tried to bite, but just didn't want to be around them. Thankfully the kid next door to her moved.
Ok ,i'm going to give a couple of examples of my dogs when it comes to minoritys.When we had Noey she hated all blacks,mexicans,hispanics.One day I was walking her in the morning,these garbage guys where collecting garbage,she was cool with the white guys,she seen the black guy and went ballistic.Sadie would never allow my sons black friend into our house openly. She would crouch and her ears would lay flat and she would growl.Any one else she had no problem with . Piper hates all minoritys,even my sons black girl friend. She barks and growls. One day I was getting gas,these Turks own it,they came up to the window,both Pipey and Tigger tried to jump through the car window,but white people the accept all.Tigger is the same way.I believe it's who owns the dogs,if it's white people the dog will naturally be racists.I don't care how much socializing you do,it's not going to change who they are being cared for by.
All of my dogs have met and been socialized with people of all colors,races. They just don't like monoritys.Like I said it's who raises the dogs. A predominately white house hold wil naturally make a racists dog.
i find this extremley racist black people are not different than white they are all people and they dont smell different Im 1/2 black and resent this topic maybe hes a strange man to him and was scared
britbrit, I am black and american indian myself, and I'm not sure why you are offended. The african/amer dog trainer that said this probably was the issue in the first place wasn't offended by it, why should you be? Some dogs are frightened by things that they aren't familiar with, be it sight or smell. You are looking at from the perspective of a human. From a dog's perspective, this human has 'markings' that are different from anything he has ever encountered among other 'humans' he's been in contact with.
britbrit, please don't be offended. I did not mean it that way. The trainer, Arnold, told me that, otherwise it wouldn't have crossed my mind. That's why I decided to ask. Not because I think my dog is racist, but because I didn't know if they could even tell the difference. I am very sorry if I offended you in any way. I am the last person who would want to do something like that. It was just odd to me because my other dogs didn't react like that to him. If you look at my original post I thought at first it was because he is a very loud talker. Litterally, you know who's at the door long before you get there to open it because you can hear him talking outside with all the doors and windows shut and good insulation, and the tv on, lol. He just talks loud. Again, I am sorry, and I hope you understand my reason for this post.
My dog (before she died) always hated the garbage guys. They were a variety of people. But she was never scared of black people or any other, because she was well socialized. "i find this extremley racist black people are not different than white they are all people and they dont smell different Im 1/2 black and resent this topic maybe hes a strange man to him and was scared " Dont get offended, because this is not racist. Its the truth. Dogs, if not socialized properly will be reserved with strangers, black people, kids, ice cream trucks, men, women, other dogs and more.
rednosed, my dog is not racist...and my whole family is white. ( we are mutts :-] whole bunch of european and some native american [which i'm most proud of :)]) My lil darling barks at everyone except for the ones who live in the house. The only people he is truly afraid of is bigger men and anyone with canes or a stick. (we believe he was beaten by his previous owner.) I personally think for most that it's the owners atitude towards others that rubs off on the dogs and the dogs stubornness. It also has to do with the dog's exprience(sp) with other people.
britbrit, Please don't be offended by this. I'm sure that was not the intention. I do believe that ALL people have their own scent. My family had an Irish Setter when I was a kid and this dog was the same way. We did not raise her from a puppy so I don't know her background before that but she absolutely HATED the UPS truck and driver. I don't think it mattered who was driving, she just went ballistic everytime the truck would pull up in the driveway. (Poor guys) Most of the time, the driver was an African American. I don't know why she acted this way, we certainly didn't instill it in her. No one in my house hold was a racist or felt that way. Maybe we need to ask Minniyar if her dogs act that way towards caucasions or other races. I believe Minniyar is from the African descent. It's very possible, that dogs are just insecure about something they are not use to.
One Of my Dog's Don't like black people she will growl at them she really scares the fex-ex man! but as for all my other dogs they love everone! --Max http://www.dogster.com/?45428 you shouldnt find this racist too yourself this is about dogs And I Know Yall dont smell differnt But some dogs dont like black people and some dogs probally dont like white people