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to cut ears or not to cut ears? At what age?

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Posted: 12:19:53 AM 7/9/2008
(continued) most pits you see fighting are crossed up mongrels or improperly inbred monsters, these are the ones you hear about on the news giving a bad name to the breed .
pinky girl
Posted: 2:06:49 AM 7/9/2008
seeing as brett only has 1 post i doubt he will show any pics.
Pretty in Pink, Wicked in Spurs
Pen2
Posted: 1:54:38 PM 7/9/2008
"Brett noone fights Pits that are worth anything"

Every dog is worth something. No dog should ever be made to fight by a bunch of heartless idiots, no matter what breed, bloodlines, or lack thereof.
The only reason to crop a Pittie's ears is so they don't get ripped off in fighting. Since it's done at such an early age, why would you say it's done because of hair loss? If the dog has hair loss, there is something else going on with it, and you certainly don't crop it off.
ruffian
Posted: 3:49:18 AM 7/10/2008
Pen I only know a very little, but morons who breed the typical poorly bred pitties, who know nothing about dogs, and have no business breeding think that "blue nose" is a special line of pits, not a color. So in order to keep them "pure" they breed blue to blue to blue, not adding any solid colors back in, as a result thin coats and fur loss is pretty common.
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Posted: 8:06:36 AM 7/11/2008
Thanks Ruffian, exactly. The ears have thin fur or none on some of those inbred thats why I called them monsters, along with huge size girth not height, and unpredictable behaviour. Sorry Pen2, but they are worthless even without being fought most are too aggressive to be pets. I have even seen some because of the inbreeding that cant even go out in sunlight because of skin problems. Mine isnt inbred, all those are good for are attacking kids and giving the breed a bad name, my boy is huge but from a,

***Edited By: RomanusTemporalis on 7/11/2008 8:32:05 AM***
Reason: spelling
Posted: 8:29:21 AM 7/11/2008
(continued) selective breeding regimen not inbreeding, huge 120lb at 1yr 4mo, highly intelligent, perfect conformity, hips etc. Loves other dogs and people, he's pulling 190 lb dead weight sled not wheels and hes only been training a month and no aggression, and yes he cost. LoL He will never be cropped or cut or fought. Selective breeding not inbreeding is the key. Mine also lives with our cat never a problem. And just so you know pen those inbreds do not need to be made to fight they live for it,

***Edited By: RomanusTemporalis on 7/11/2008 8:50:45 AM***
Reason: phrasing
Posted: 8:57:48 AM 7/11/2008
(continued) they remind me of what i read yrs ago about the now extinct roman war dogs so aggressive males and females would often kill each other during mating.
imunique
Posted: 11:13:49 AM 7/11/2008
Sorry but although you may think yours is perfect he is not. He is out of standard by far so selective breeding was missed somewhere down the line. As you may feel that inbreed dogs are worthless because of this or that you are wrong not all dogs of any breed including inbreed ones will act in a certain way. It is the idiots who train them or lack of training them who do this.
Pen2
Posted: 11:34:45 AM 7/11/2008
Well, call me a sappy tool, but no dog is worthless to me, only the irresponsible people who inbred the dogs are.
I didn't know that Ruffian, but thanks for the info. I don't know as much about APBT's as I want to, since I am going to be purchasing one, somewhere down the road.
One thing I do know about is colour, or breeding for colour, as much as I've been able to determine, anyway.
What are the basic red flags in the Pittie breed, as far as the dogs you are talking about, Romanus Temporalis? (your name is so imperial, I couldn't resist,j/k)
imunique
Posted: 11:44:30 AM 7/11/2008
He also mentioned that unless the bloodline is Gotti the dog should just get shots, so basically if its not gotti its worthless. Well buddy since Gotti was no where around years and years ago and the main color of the Gotti bloodline is blue, guess what blue came from what else other than color dilution of inbreeding/line breeding dogs. Most of the Gotti bloodline is out of standard as well. Gotti bloodlines are bred by most breeders for the look and color considering they are too out of standard to take championships at shows , what other reason could they be being bred for? Are they beautiful yes most of them are, are they the best bloodline in the apbt, No they do not meet standard but do make the owner look macho so if thats what your aiming for you got it.
Posted: 3:47:03 PM 7/11/2008
Here let me reiterate what I said to help you out, if its not a Gotti or here one more time "OR" from a established bloodline from a reputable breeder just get the shots. Never did I say if it was not a Gotti it was worthless, but if its a 5th or 6th generation inbred monster from mongrel or Gotti then yeah, it is worthless and dangerous. You can go 1 to 2 gen before you need to outbreed , and just so you know buddy/biddy hes been checked hes perfectly in form. The weight and strength are due to diet and
Posted: 4:11:01 PM 7/11/2008
training not from being bred to mastiffs or great danes. He's been on nu vet and a high protein diet since he was weaned, swimming running the weight pulling after he hit 13 month as before that can cause problems. Back to the Gotti most real breeders I know outbreed at 2 gen but some knuckleheads go 5 or 6 thats when you get those monsters, maybe I'm wrong but I have never seen one that far inbred that was not dangerous. This dog I have is acceptable and he was tested and he will be shown when im done,
Posted: 4:35:16 PM 7/11/2008
with him, his ultimate form as a working dog not just a ball chaser lay about lol, not that thats bad my most beloved dog was a ball chasing layabout german shepard lol. But this dog has been brought up as a working dog not just in name but in practice. All his weight and strength is due to that.Basically he's a bodybuilder dog amino acids omega 3 the works I know what i'm doing buddy/biddy do you? Any dog can be taken to its ultimate form with the right diet and workout/training even a mongrel.
Posted: 4:43:59 PM 7/11/2008
Machismo through my dog? Hardly i'm too old for such nonsense as to the imperial remark why yes, yes I am. j/king.

***Edited By: RomanusTemporalis on 7/11/2008 5:10:21 PM***
Reason: udder frivolity
ruffian
Posted: 5:08:24 PM 7/11/2008
Well I guess you can show your dog if you choose, but you will probably laughed out of the ring since the UKC's pitty standard states "Desirable weight for a mature male in good condition is between 35 and 60 pounds. Desirable weight for a mature female in good condition is between 30 and 50 pounds." Now if there is another reputable registering body for the APBT please let me know.


Info from http://www.apbtconformation.com/ukcstandard.htm
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Posted: 5:28:23 PM 7/11/2008
My friend we shall see hes pulled that sled loaded at 100 for 5 miles, at 190 for 1 1/2 so his condition is excellent not good and i,ve got all papers, he works not just in name. I want to see if hes denied I dont see how he could be.
ruffian
Posted: 5:31:54 PM 7/11/2008
umm because he is OUT OF STANDARD, do you even know what the hell a standard is?

And what 'papers' do you have?
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Posted: 5:47:18 PM 7/11/2008
http://www.UKCpitbull.com/ukcstandard.htm Do you even know how to read? Or is it a comprehension issue ? Read the line under the desirable weight . (Dogs over these weights are not to be penalized unless they are [disproportionately] massive or rangy.) His symmetry is all in line and proportion. Do you know what the hell that means?
imunique
Posted: 5:50:01 PM 7/11/2008
ruffian- there is no hope. He is not going to comprehend that his dog somewhere down the line got so OUT OF STANDARD due to either inbreeding or breeding some other type of dog in to the bloodline like Razors Edge did.He does not even realize that his dog is out of standard.He obviously has not did much checking or research with UKC or ADBA.
imunique
Posted: 5:53:40 PM 7/11/2008
How many UKC shows have you been to? Your site also says something about AKC standards and AKC does not even recognize the apbt.
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