Does anyone know anything about it? I know the basics from my vet but I was looking it up on-line today and where my vet seemed to make it sound like it was no big deal some of the things sounded kind of scary. I was just curious as to if whats on-line is worst case scenario or if my vet was just trying to sugar coat it so I wouldn't flip out. Thanks if anyone knows.
i always thought it was a growth disorder due to too much protein and calcium in puppy foods. i looked it up also and was surprised to see it may be linked to a viral infection or even vaccines !! if you can wait til tomorrow night i could ask the vets i work with and get their opinion on it. i may be able to get on the internet at lunch and give you an answer but if not i won't be on til real late tomorrow evening.
Hey Scout. Thanks. I'll just check back late tonight. I am going to put Tucker on large breed adult food. That should have less calcium and protein. I'll check the labels to be sure. Anything else you find out let me know.
Great Danes are pron to getting HOD. Thats why you get their hips checked a two. You aren't supposed to feed giant breed dogs puppy food at all. I did the first few weeks with Oscar and quickly switched to a high grade adult food. What kind of dog do you have? Kim Oscars pics http://www.dogster.com/?50558
PaigeBeverly, I have a doberman. He's possibly mixed with choc. lab we're not sure. We adopted him from the shelter. I have been feeding him chicken soup puppy food, it only comes in the one size. I also have a 120 lb. black lab and I fed him puppy food. He never had any issues. Now that Tucker has HOD I have to lower his calcium and protein intake and I think adult large breed food would do that. I'm just not sure yet which to give him. I personally like the chicken soup dog food the best but I'm just worried that by it being made from chicken and not other products like the lower brand dog foods are that it will have to much protein. I'm waiting on my vet. to call me and to tell me which food she thinks. Which food do you feed Oscar? I also give my 4 other adult dogs the bravo raw food with their dog food. I know that would be to much protein. I just don't know how to feed him since I have to lower his calcium and protein. A dogs main diet is protein. Its so confusing.
I give Oscar Diamond Lamb and Rice. It has 23% protein. Have you looked into the RAW diet? I want to switch to it, but I don't have the freezer space. Chicken Soup though is a good kibble. Here are a few more brands Wellness, Innova, and Candiea(sp).
I found this information... Hypertrophic osteodystrophy, also referred to as HOD, is an orthopedic disease seen in immature large and giant breed dogs. The cause of HOD is unknown, but it may be linked to diet or an infectious disease. Breeds most commonly affected include the Great Dane, Irish wolfhound, Saint Bernard, borzoi, boxer, Dalmatian, Irish setter, Weimaraner, German short-haired pointer, Doberman pinscher, German shepherd, Labrador retriever, collie, greyhound, basset hound and some terriers. Signs usually develop between two and eight months of age. What to Watch For A slight limp or a severe lameness such that the animal holds the limb up Swollen and painful carpus (wrist area), which may also be warm to touch Fever, lethargy, depression, and lack of appetite Diagnosis Your veterinarian will ask you many questions in order to develop a complete history of the course of the disease. These questions may include: When did the problem start? Which limb or limbs are affected? Have you treated the dog with any medication? What sort of response did the medication bring about? Your veterinarian will also examine your dog completely to determine the source of the lameness and to check for a fever. X-rays (radiographs) of the legs are taken to see the typical changes associated with HOD and confirm the diagnosis. Treatment Treatment includes the administration of pain relievers, such as deracoxib, aspirin, carprofen, or etodolac. If the dog is severely debilitated, he may require hospitalization and intravenous fluid therapy and/or nutritional support. Home Care and Prevention Be aware of your pet's normal gait, appetite, and demeanor so that you can be aware of any changes. Contact your veterinarian if you notice any of the above signs of hypertrophic osteodystrophy.
okay zoe here goes................. apparently there are 2 types of hod, the type you mentioned, and hypertrophic osteopathy. the 1 you have is related to dietary problems....too much protein and calcium. the 2nd one is not diet related. it is more a link towards neoplasia's or cancer, usually originating in the lungs and then spreading to the joint. it is not common, the 2 vets i asked today have seen only 2 cases each in their 20 years of practicing so i wasn't able to get much prognosis information from them. however, one woman i work with who breeds, shows and judges irish setters, did have a puppy years ago who had your HOD. with antibiotics, vitamin c, cage rest , change in diet, and pain meds her dog did well. lived to be 12 years old. interestingly enough her dog had to be put to sleep for bone cancer, which developed in the joint that was affected by the HOD. some cases can be so severe where the front legs of the pups have to be put in splints. apparently there is a study going on in the irish setter world on HOD. maybe if you look up irish setters and HOD you may be able to find more current information. it seems the type your puppy has is the better of the two and should be able to be effectively managed with a diet change and pain meds such as rimadyl. you want to get him on an adult food diet that is low in both protein and calcium. something less than 24 % protein. sounds like it will be a long haul for your pup but it will turn out okay. hopefully your vet will have had more experience with this and can guide you along. :0)
Thanks so much Scout. I'm heading out to the pet store tomorrow to see what I can find. We have a gourmet pet store here near us that sells every kind of dog food there is. Well the really good kinds. I'm also going to start a little research on-line for the dog foods to see if I can get an idea before I go. My vet doesn't have very much knowledge in this either. She is very young and has been with her practice for 4 yrs. I believe. This practice has been open for a very long time. Since 1972 I believe. They have only ever had one case of HOD there. I did meet with my vet and the other vet who works there who actually treated the HOD patient. They didn't really have much to say. So far it doesn't seem that Tucker has a very bad case of it. Lets keep our fingers crossed. The vet said the dog they had that had it would have his spells of lameness and pain and it would last for days. I can't give Tucker rimadyl because of the fact that he could possible have a little lab in him. The emergency vet I went to said that rimadyl could cause liver problems in labs and especially choc. lab. They gave me another type of pain med. and inflammation med. for him. I've kept him crated quite a bit today. I even caught the culprit who opens the crates. When I went out for a bit I put his crate in a different room and turned the t.v. on Animal Planet for him so that he would still be surrounded by dogs. (When I was gone is when my beagle poo'd on the wall, by the way.) He was still acting like his legs may have hurt a little this morning. Certain ways he would move he would whine a bit. He seems now to be completely back to normal. My baby was born with a very rare disease and I got her back to normal. I am quite positive I can do it with my puppy also. Everyone keep me in your thoughts please. I see another very long road ahead of me. You may get lots of sob posts from me, just ignore if you don't want to hear me whine. :)