Ok....let me clarify a few things........ 1) I am NOT FrostyGirl 2) Yes, it is they way the word 'mutt' is used on this board that irritates me 3) The definition of the word does in fact say 'mixed or undetermined' origin - meaning that it's ancestors are unknown - not the case with a cross breed 4) Most of you say there is nothing wrong with the use of the word, as you call your own dogs mutts - but I bet you don't call them that word in the mean, hateful way it is used on this board. If I came up to you and called your dog a ugly mutt (with a hateful tone) you'd be offended. When you call your dog a mutt it's 'different'. 5) To answer the question about the pther post that I never answered......I called them traitors because I am not happy with what the SCBCA is doing. It had nothing to do with the pure/cross breed of animal. In case you haven't noticed - they have now added hundreds of pure breed dogs to their registry. I personally don't like that - hence I called anyone a traitor who deals with them. Any more questions?? And all else said - the definition of 'mutt' still stands true and does NOT describe a cross bred dog.
All i have to say is that I think the word mutt is cute. I used to chat with Cajun a lot who has a pomeranian/bichon mix and he felt the same way, it's rude to call his dog a mutt. I personally don't see what's wrong with it but I don understand that it's wrong to be hateful toward an animal for being bred "wrong" instead of toward the person that bred the dog.
Frosty, I never thought you WERE Dizzy (dizzy maybe, but not Dizzy). I've never known you to be outright rude, arrogant and nasty just for the heck of it. Dizzy, thank you so much (finally) for your reply. Personally, I don't need reassurance from anyone about my dogs (now or in the past), so you may call them whatever you choose (typo queen strikes again). That will not change my opinion of them. Dizzy, you might want to lighten up, just a little. There are some pretty nice folks on here, who are more than willing to be helpful. It seems to me (perhaps ONLY me) that you have gone out of your way to offend someone with nearly every post you make. Perhaps treating others a bit more kindly would win them over to your point of view?
One more response to this thread then I'm done. Unfortunately Dizzy, most of the cross bred designer dogs are not being bred with pure-bred parents. Breeders are using what they think are poodles (and others) and whatever else floats their fancy. If they were using purebreds, they more than likely would not be cross-breeding in the first place. Unless they figure they can make more with cross-breds (which somehow, some do). O.K., I'm done with my opinion on this topic! NEXT!
I'd say 90% of the pups I've seen offered are by purebred parents and the breeder offers copies of the parents AKC (or similar registry) paperwork. There are always going to be bad seeds, but to me this whole thing got out of hand once people decided to spend their OWN money for these dogs. It's like the pure bred breeders are in an uproar because the newer breeds are more expensive than their own dogs. Thats just economics and it's just something you have to accept. I don't like the term 'designer dogs' anymore than I like the term 'mutt'. And for all you people capping the letter when you use it (as in "they are nothing but MUTTS") - what exactly are you trying to prove?
I dunno' I think I was satisfied with $1,000.00 for my show quality pups. I even provided the pedigrees BEFORE anyone had to express an interest in purchasing one of them. I set the prices. I don't feel threatened by anyone else and how they price their litters. I DO however feel sorry for those innocent, ignorant people who are confused by the claims of "purebred" mixed breeds.
I would like to quote my one true love here, Willy Dizzle: "what's in a name? a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." So let's stop worrying about dictionary terms and semantics and post something useful and helpful to the pet community! One more thing, how ignorant is it to say that genuine breeders are concerned with money? They make nothing off their dogs, that barely covers breeding expenses! DESIGNER breeders are those that mix breeds for the purpose of money IMO, and that's what these people do, get some info please!
>The word Mutt means "a mongrel dog" according to the dictionary. Mongrel (for those who don't know) means "An animal or a plant resulting from various interbreedings, especially a dog of mixed or undetermined breed." Therefore a mutt is a dog that is of undetermined breed - meaning that it's origin is unknown, such as many of the dogs at the shelters.< I haven't even read this whole post and I am not going to, but get over it! Why does this bother you so much? We purebred owners do not think that our dogs are superior to yours! I own 5 purebreds AND a mixed breed. Again, GET OVER IT!
ok i'm just going to say one thing, dizzy i think you misinterpret the way "mutt" is used around here. i can't think of anyone here who thinks mutts are inferior. people say "just a mutt" meaning that mix breeds are being sold for lots of money to a gullible public when those same mixes are available at shelters. "designer dogs" being a fad, when they are "just a mutt." and "just a mutt" is a great dog, one that we love dearly, as much as any dog, and some people love them more.
I agree pearl, I mean I'm fairly new, but from the posts I've seen, I've never seen 'mutt' used in a bad way. More in a confused way. "They paid 800 for a mutt?" From a sentence like that, I think they are saying, "wow....that is a lot of money for a dog that isn't purebred and doesn't have champion backgrounds"....not: "Ew! A mutt? Why did you buy that?"....because I don't think anyone here has a problem with mixed breeds, they just can't understand how they can be sold for so much.
~~ok i'm just going to say one thing, dizzy i think you misinterpret the way "mutt" is used around here. i can't think of anyone here who thinks mutts are inferior. people say "just a mutt" meaning that mix breeds are being sold for lots of money to a gullible public when those same mixes are available at shelters. "designer dogs" being a fad, when they are "just a mutt." ~~ The difference being......that you do not know the pedigree of ANY dog from a shelter, you do know the pedigree of a cross (provided you buy from the right breeder) - and thats what people are paying for. And if I am misinterpreting the word mutt, it's because the word is continually used is caps which denotes screaming, yelling, or sarcasm. Caps places emphasis on certain words. If it was being used just like any other word - there would be no reason for the caps. Unfortunately, you cannot 'hear' tone of voice on these forums, but you can SEE it. Please! Give me a break! I'm not stupid. And Chili - from the looks of your posts it seems that you need to 'get over' a few things yourself. You worry about yours and I'll worry about mine. "Got it?" It's such hypocrasy to see people tell me that I should be more friendly on this board - when they are the same ones using the very word I am posting about - In an unfriendly manner, I might add. When I can see people act like adults and either accept the fact that cross breeds are going to be bred for....well...the rest of our lives...or quit their whining about something they have no control over then I'll be a little nicer. I have watched this baord for weeks and every single time a cross breed post comes up nearly every one of you act like lunatics! Why can't you just quit bitchin' about it? No one is asking you to like it. Sitting there at your desk typing away isn't going to stop one single breeder.......but if you'd get up off your a$$es and help educate some people about spay and neutering then you could at least prevent some of these dogs from being born in the first place. Perhaps spreading the word about spay and neuter contracts would be a start. The breeders are not going to stop but the irresponsible 'accident' breeding by those who purchase these dogs can. Every time someone asks for help regarding their 'puggle' or whatever it is - instead of giving the person advice you always say "Why not go to your local shelter and you can find plenty of dogs there"....yadda, yadda, yadda..... Don't you think if they wanted a shelter dog they would be there getting one instead of coming here for advice? You can't make someone's mind up for them. If they want a cross breed - they will get one. And it seems that because you get ticked off about not being able to change their mind you enforce the word 'MUTT' with sarcasm and dis-respect to make yourselves feel better. It's like your saying "Well if I cant make them buy a pure bred or get a shelter dog then I'll just call their breed a nasty name and make them feel like they are doing something wrong". In other words, you want to make them feel 'lesser' so that you can feel 'better'. As I said, total hypocrits. And for the lady who sells her dogs for $1000 - honey that still doesn't compare to what the doodle dogs are going for. The producer of the movie The Notebook just shelled out almost $3000 for her labradoodle. Although I will say that I'm glad you got that much. If people pay that much for a pure bred then they must be a good dog - so you should be proud. (no sarcasm intended there) There are some really intelligent people on this board and I don't refer to everyone when I post - just a few - and those few seem to be the ones it upsets the most.
Scout........ I have heard the term "fence jumper" a lot over the years, but it was referring to people, with a not so nice definition. Dizzy...........Sometimes you can argue a point to death, and I think that is what has happened here. I think sometimes people use the word "mutt" in a non offensive way for a short defintion of the breed of a dog. If I came to your house and called your dog a mutt, and you were upset by that, I would not do that again. But come on, do dogs really care. I would be willing to guarantee that you could call any dog a mutt, no matter what his pedigree was, and if he was aware you were talking to him, he would wag his tail. That is another thing that makes dogs superior to humans. They are not as easily offended. Dogs don't care what you call then as long as you call for them for dinner.
"When I can see people act like adults and either accept the fact that cross breeds are going to be bred for....well...the rest of our lives...or quit their whining about something they have no control over then I'll be a little nicer". My question to you is: why all the whining because people us the word Mutt? I see nothing wrong with using the word unless its used in a "mean" way or manner. Its hard to interpret the way people type/post on here and everyone can read the same post in a different manner/way. Some may take the post as being rude while others may not think anything of it. You also stated that we should get off our A$$ and educate people on spay and neutering. We can do that and we have but we can't beat that into everyone's head - they do as they please. Just as your going on and on about the word Mutt. Everyone see's things differently - not everyone can agree with someone else's opinion or how someone thinks its suppose to be.
>The difference being......that you do not know the pedigree of ANY dog from a shelter, you do know the pedigree of a cross (provided you buy from the right breeder) - and thats what people are paying for.< No, you don't know the pedigree from a dog from the shelter that is why you should NOT adopt them. HAHA! That is what you are saying dizzy. You should adopt them because they need a home, you SHOULD NOT breed an un-pedigreed dog! And even if they happened to be pedigreed, you can never trust a mutt breeder, they usually are liars and thieves just itching to grab your money. Even if they have pedigrees it does NOT make them good. All those shelters are full of dogs because SOMEONE bred them, or SOMEONE couldn't get their dog fixed. A lot of those dogs aren't show quality which in turn proves that every dog from that shelter, unless it is accidental has a crappy breeder just like the ones we talk about who can't hold their pants up and refrain from breeding their dogs together.