Since no one knows what a cat run is, I'll ask another question: For outside cat owners, how do you stop them prowling around, going into other people's yards, eating wildlife etc? For inside cat owners, do they use a litter box their whole life? Do they EVER go outside in fresh air and play on nice grass? If not, don't you think that is mean? Anyone got a cat and also own a tame bird that is not always in a cage ie on the couch, on your shoulder? How do you keep the cat from eating the bird? Thanks
all the cats i have had have ben primarily indoors. occasionally one of them would sneak out. the wildlife does a pretty good job of fending for themselves. she has brought home an pccasional mole and mice but no birds, squirrels. i don't think its cruel to keep a cat inside especially since ther is a lot more to worry about with the cats safety vs, the safety of the wildlife. regarding how well your new cat would be around your bird is a wait and see situation. many cats live peacefully with birds. you could always put a bell on the collar to warn the bird when the cat is close. but training the cat like you train floyd to stay away from the bird is possible.
I have both. Cats and a Bird. My cats are strictly indoor. There is way too much danger outside for them. It has been proven that indoor cats live longer than outdoor cats. As far as the bird and the cats go, they do not bother her. She stays out of her cage all the time. She actually gets down off of her cage and walks around on the floor. I was concerned in the beginning but my vet told me not to worry about her. That the cat didn't stand a chance with her. She is a Blue Front Amazon and if she were to bite one of them they would never mess with her again. I am pretty sure that my cats have probably tested this and been bitten because I don't have to say anything to them. They just don't go near her at all. And the bird is worse then the cats when it comes to stalking. If one of the cats is sitting too close to her cage she will come down and go after them. If one of the dogs goes near her cage she does the same thing. She did bite one of my Rotts when it was a puppy on the the top of the head and I thought it was going to need stitches.
All 3 of my cats are indoor and out door cats. They do as they please, and fend for them selves very well. The 2 are spayed,and Sparky has to be nuetered when he's 6 months old.The wild life out side,well lets just say none get on the inside.The colder the weather gets,the more they want to stay in and lay around until Sping comes.
I saw a thing on Animal Planet once, wildlife rescue or something like that. It said that cats are responsible for more than a billion small animal deaths a year, birds, moles, chipmunks, squirrels, rabbits, etc. A billion. There's 77 million cats in the US that are pets. No telling how many feral cats there are though. If there's 77 million pet cats and 23 million feral cats (that would have a much higher mortality rate) That means each cat on average is killing more than 100 small animals and birds a year. Holy wow. Just because you dont see your cat killing stuff doesn't mean it isn't.
My current cat is indoor only because of two incidents we had a few years ago with our last cat (an indoor/outdoor who liked to be out at night but greeted us at the door every morning). First, I was woken up at 1 am by my neighbor telling me that a car just hit a cat and it looked like mine. I rushed to the scene, saw a mangled, bloody body and threw up. My neighbor, wrapped him up and my husband took him to the vet. Upon arriving there, he had to be put to sleep. What my husband didnt notice and I guess it could have been ripped off in the accident, was that it wasnt wearing my cats collar. After crying all night, I was woken up by mine like everyday...he jumped on the door to make it "knock". After this, I tried to keep him in, but he cried to go out. A month later, he was in a cat fight and came home bloody. We cleaned him up and kept an eye on it. A few days later he had a bump on his neck the size of a tennis ball. We took him to the vet and he had a severe infection from the cat fight. They opened it up and scraped it out and administered medicine. Cost over $600. For the next 2 months our entire house began to smell like rotten flesh I had to scrape out the "gunk" from his neck daily. It wasnt healing, and in fact got to the point where his bones and muscles became exposed. The vet convinced us that it was time to put him down...that it just wasnt healing and we did. I'm sorry to be graphic, but this is my experience of why my cat is not let out. I never thought of a run though, I will look into it. My cat now is so jealous of the puppy who gets to go outside.
I have a primarily outdoor cat named Sassy. She comes inside about 8 p.m. to eat supper and sleep (she has her own bedroom). We put her back out around 8 a.m. I have a collar on her with a bell and her tags. She makes quite a ruckus when she comes running. I thought this would cut back on the dead animals she brings to our front porch, but no such luck. I think the mail carrier believes we are in a satanic cult or something because there is so often a headless bird or a bloody mouse on our front stoop. How embarrasing! She also wreaks havoc in our neighbors yards by batting at their christmas lights in the winter and climbing in their cars while they are washing them in the summer. I'm lucky I have very tolerant neighbors! :)
I have 4 cats indoors and 6 cats out. The indoors cats stay in at night and when we are not home. We let them out in the evenings and on weekends if they want to go out. They pretty much stay close to home. One of these is a killer, and often kills mice, moles, chipmunks. But I figure that is the natural order of things. (she also hunts snakes, which I don't like! One of them got the better of her, and required a visit to the vet. That's why we no longer let her out unsupervised) The outside cats are strays that found us, 2 adults, and a litter of 4 kittens, now grown. The female adult stays very close to the house, although after 3 years, we are just now at the point where we can actually touch her. The tomcat comes and goes-we may see him twice a day for 3-4 days, and then not see him again for a couple of days. He also is very hard to touch-only when he is super hungry! The kittens stay close to home, although we don't really know where they hide out during the day. But we see them every morning and every evening at mealtime. 3 of 4 of them are very tame. The 4th, we can touch, but we can't pick her up. All in all, it's working for us.
I have 3 indoor cats. They do go out on the back patio and sit with the dogs during the day, (never at night), only when I'm home to supervise. There is no way they can get out of the back yard even if they wanted to, which they don't. They can even nibble on some grass and throw it up in the house later. The only thing that they have killed is a few bugs such as crickets.
i have two kittens who will always be indoor cats. it's much safer for them, and i don't think they need to go outside. they careen around the house and basement and i have two very tall cat towers for them to climb.
My two are INDOOR only..because of the coyotes, hawks and owls we have here. We took in a stray many years ago, who was used to being in and out...and would dash out the door every chance he got. Soon after, we moved here, out in the country. Thomas only made it here a year. He dashed out one day, and a coyote got him. (I know it was a coyote, because I later found scat (poo) that had his hair in it... And the scary thing is that he never went far from the house, but the coyotes come right into our yard...we hear them at night. My daughters and I were so heartbroken...so when we adopted the two kitties we have now we made strict rules to keep them outside. And since they haven't been out, they don't try to dash out the door...they just kind of look out it, then turn around and go back. So no, in our case it isn't mean, it's protecting them. I would love to have outside cats, but they wouldn't survive.
Well, I have a tom cat that can go outside if he wanted to, but that would take some effort on his part, and he is rarely interested. The female cat I have is a hunter. I do not like her killing birds, because I like birds. She wears a bell, but is a stalker and very fast. I really look at what she does as the natural food chain. Now, if I had a bird inside my house that I had purposely put there I would feel very bad if the cat caught it.
For the first time ever, I have 2 outdoor cats. Though the finished basement (heated/cooled) window is kept open for them to go in there if they want to. Surprisingly, they don't very often. I do not keep them from going in other people's yards. They mostly stay around my porch, where we spend a lot of time, and where they are fed. Also being altered kinda keeps them from wanting to wander far and wide in search of "love."But I have definitely seen them hunting in the neighbors' yards. And yes, do they hunt!! There is always a mouse or mole or even a bird on our porch. A neighbor actually said our cat is awesome for keeping the pests out of her garden LOL!
i have both cats and birds 2 cats and 7 birds, my cats don't bother with my birds, all my birds are in my room and i don't let any other animal in there, my cats are both indoor and outdoor, they go out in the moring come in for food and go out again or stay in and lie on the couch, we bring them in when it is dark, my cats dont go fare they are fixed. even if my birds are out flying about in my room my cats will just watch them and do nothing bad to hurt them, which i find strange.
My Zoe Lizbeth is an indoor cat...mainly because we have lots of stray cats and large dogs in the neighborhood. I did set up a cat run for her (yup, I know what it is), but she refused to use it. She despises the outdoors with a passion! Don't ask me why. Even when I put her in her carrier, she knows that she is leaving the house and starts yowling at the top of her lungs. As to the litter box, we've never had a problem. She knows where to go and what to do.
I just have to add that both Pandora and Hiedi are the most awsome hunters ever . Not a mouse or rat, or chipmunk will get passed them to get into the house. They do leave lots of gifts on my back porch,sometimes with 2 cats my yard can look like a morgue.That's what we have them for,and they are awsome at it.Sparky is too young to hunt yet,he's not interested yet.I just don't like it when they kill baby birds though.
Smokey is inside, she is afraid of outside, and wouldn't let her anyways because it is dangerous. My friend's cat goes outside once a week for the day, but comes back at nighttime. If I get another cat, I'm doing that.
Thanks everyone. After Minniyar's statistics (which I am sure would be similar -- maybe more -- for Australia), i think I will definitely be having an indoor cat or having that big cat run so it has the option of outside. I know a few of you said it was "natural" for cats to kill things, but I still can't contribute to it. I love walking outside and seeing life all around. HOWEVER, I can just see myself spending over $1,000 for this cat run and the stupid cat won't even want to use it! Maybe I can lock my kids in it when I eventually have them!!!