when the breeds were created some of the hunting dogs had their tails cropped so they wouldn't get injured on the fields while they were working. fighting dogs or guardian dogs were cropped so that other dogs or predators couldn't latch on to their tails. ears were cropped for much the same reason. if a predator got a hold of a dogs ear it can cause such intense pain that the working dog may not be able to focus on his job which may lead to the loss of livestock he was meant to protect. since many of the dogs in the show ring are not used for their original purpose, it is more like a tradition i guess to show them how they were originally. whether it is cruel or not - well everyone feels differently about that.
I'd say the main reason today is for looks only, with the exception of the few dogs that do the work they were originally bred for and could benefit from the surgery. In my opinion, looks is not enough reason to have ears or tail, or parts of either, cut off. I don't think people are doing it to be mean... they are just more concerned with the physical appearance than I am.
Rocky is just a mix/mutt and I am still trying to figure out why they did his tail. Everyone always asks me why his tail is docked. I got him from the pound...no clue! Pugs Lee: http://www.dogster.com/?66949 Princess Molly: http://www.dogster.com/?66961 Rocky: http://www.dogster.com/?66967
When I was young we had a dog 3/4 Lab and 1/4 Weimeraner. She would wag her tail and the end of it would hit walls and stuff and the end of her tail was always raw and flicking blood everywhere. This went on her whole life. It never stayed healed for long. Weimeraners usually have docked tails. She did not have a Lab looking tail... I ran into a cop at the vet once. He was getting his police dog's tail docked for the same reason. It was a Malenois(SP). He said the back of his police car always looked like a murder scene inside...hence the docking. I would rather see it done when they are tiny pups, then it's not a big deal. I remove dog dewclaws when they are 2 days old. Just snip them off. No big deal, the pain is gone in a minute, and they go back to sleep afterwards.
i think that yes maybe if the tail is gonna cause them problems like being caught or sumthing coz of there job or because they have a bone defect that could cause them distress then fine but i dont think its right for pure vainess i cant believe crufts say that certain breads should have a docked tail as bread standards how cruel is that?! anyway i thought it had been banned and made illegal well thats what i heard any way?!
no offence to kitty mom but i think dewclawing is wrong to for cats especially because my moms a vet and i know alot about animals that the dew claw keeps on growing and causes alot of pain and discomfort but im not sure whether its the same in dogs
Party Princess: I said DEWCLAW not declaw. A dewclaw is a "thumb" the dog has on it's front, sometimes back, legs. In hunting dogs, we remove them because they tear off when the dog is hunting and the dog will bleed to death. As I said the pain is momentary and then the toes are not an issue in the dog's life...no surgery to remove them before using the dog in the field.
Because,........People pierce their ears, tongues eyebrows, and all other parts of their body's. People put braces on their children. Women wear makeup everyday. People cover themselfs with the clothes they think look good on them. People cut their hair. People have plastic surgery on parts of their bodys. People have their stomachs stapled shut so they get thin. Now I see people pierceing their dogs ears. People spay and neuter their animals. None of any of the things I mentioned are natural. We are not born with clothes on, or pierceings or some with crooked teeth. Do you not like that people do these things? Its a choice, nothing but a choice. If its done by a vet and the animal is cared for, Its no worse then some of the other strang things people seem to do.
party princess= if your mom is a vet then she would know that when a cat is declawed properly the nail does not grow back. it is only when the procedure is done incorrectly that it can grow back. and it doesn't grow back as a regular nail like the one that was removed. if dewclawing is done incorrectly that also can grow back, but yet again it does not grow back like the nail that was removed. the biggest rpoblem i see with dewclaw removals is that far too often they are not removed properly and the hair in that spot does not grow back. scouts dewclaws were removed on her front legs and they are tiny little bald spots. the same goes for the tail docking. if enough skin is not left to close over the tail bone properly, the fur will not grow in that spot either.
Cricket that is why people "care" for dogs! They can not tell you what hurts or how they feel! They are "CARED FOR" by us.....Just like a child. Dogs do not take care of themselfs! Because they cant....Because people bred the natural dog out of the pet!
Our dog's tails are docked so it doesn't interfere with their hunting (we have bird dogs). Their dewclaws are removed for the dogs' own protection on the field. The cat is declawed so she can't claw up the furniture or scratch on of the dogs in the eye and blind it, and also to prevent her from climbing up the wall and getting to the bird and killing it. ~Seij
I don't have a problem with docking, dewclawing or ear cropping unless someone has a problem with one and not another. Like if someone dewclaws their cats, but gets upset when people dock tails from dogs or crop dog ears. Just seems like a double standard to me. My aunt did that once. She bred minpins, and once when I was over, all the puppies had gause on their tails and tape on their ears. My grandma's sister was over as well and was asking if I would watch her cat while she was gone for 2 days. My aunt asked why a cat would need a sitter for just too days, and my grandma's sister said that it was because she just had him dewclawed, so she needed to make sure someone was watching him. My aunt went off about the subject of dewclawing cats. All the while her min pins were sitting in her lap with taped ears and stuff. It was weird I thought.... I personally don't have a problem with any. I wouldn't ear crop because I think it's ugly, but that's it. And I wouldn't declaw just because it's easy to just trim the nails. But if people have it done, I don't think any less of them.
Harley, the difference IMO is that I can decide whether to get plastic surgery on myself on not. If I did, it would be because I wanted myself to look better... But a dog doesn't have the notions we do about what looks better.. You know, like, "If only my tail was cut off, I would be so much sexier!!" So where I do not hate or even dislike people who have these surgeries done to their dogs for looks only, or even think they are bad people, I do think they are more concerned with outward appearances regarding their dog than I am, and if they asked my opinion, I would say skip the cosmetic surgeries.I do not think dogs with cropped parts are ugly, either, some look very nice. It just isn't a choice for me, because it is not important to me to change her physical appearance to something that I might like looking at more, or I thought might look better to others, than the body she was born with.