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Only breed if you show?
Should breeders only breed show dogs...
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Posted: 1:15:02 AM 10/8/2004
When think of people who 'show their dogs' as breeders, I think of people people who use their dogs in any event, be it conformation, hunting, herding, schutzhund, or whatever. I think that people who participate in these events in general have a better knowledge of what their breed is all about, be it a chihuahua or a saint bernard. Honestly, I'd be happy if people even participated in obedience or agility. At least that'd show their more interested in their dogs beyond them being 'money machines' or whatever.
Posted: 3:12:45 AM 10/8/2004
The soundness of the dog is paramount. If the dog is also good looking it is nice. It's working ability is(or was) the reason for it's being...and should be intact. Conformation is essential to it's working ability, depending on the task and the body area in question. I like to try to breed good looking, sound, working dogs.
Posted: 7:12:44 AM 10/8/2004
i have always believed that form should follow finction. of course, form has to do with the dog performing to its fullest working ability. but the form i have seen in the show ring is quite the oppposite to that of the same breed in the working world. i would take a dog bred for its working ability over its conformation show potential anyday. i am not sure i understood your argument about health testing. whether a dog is bred for show or work, health testing is just as important to me. my breed is one of the few that has the shortest list of genetic health problems. whether i am buying a pet or a show, or working prospect, i still want to purchase from someone who has done the health testing on the parents and grandparents. why would i want a pet doberman lets say who comes down with vwd at the age of 6 months ? or a working lgd who comes down with hip dysplasia at the age of 2 ? how effective would any of them be for me as a working dog and how devastated i would be as a pet owner? health testing is just as important no matter what your reason is for purchasing a dog. i have seen too many devastated pet owners who have purchased dogs for companions who have gotten them from breeders who didn't give a fig about health testing.
Posted: 10:52:06 AM 10/8/2004
more government is not the answer at any level. period. once you start down that road, be very careful because history has taught some of us that you WILL get more then what you asked for.
Posted: 10:55:53 AM 10/8/2004
hoosgow...something has got to change what we are doing right now isn't working.
Posted: 10:58:55 AM 10/8/2004
Scout: some pretty odd looking dogs in the Lab show rings. I've seen them so short the belly's almost on the ground, round eyes, no otter tail, round feet, muzzle too short etc... bunches of them like this. Took a friend to a show once she looked around and said "are they purebred?" she was puzzled at the way they looked. I've seen field labs that looked like they could lick the bottom of a coke bottle, nose so long and snippy, etc
Posted: 11:02:13 AM 10/8/2004
kitties mom... dgos role in our societiy has changed drastically. no longer does want or need a working caliber pet. in fact i think working caliber dogs are just to much for common dog owner. Dogs have a new job to be pets. just to be some ones buddy and a lot of breeds are exceling at it. A true working dog id usually a crazy puppy and a dominat adult. not charcteristics in dogs most people want. also just because the lineage is working dogs that does not guarntee all the puppys if any are going to be good working dogs. it helps but it is no guarantee
Posted: 12:11:22 PM 10/8/2004
maybe have more standards required for registry, like the health and genetic testing, and with DNA becoming more usable; i'm not sure i would put this in the hands of the government, but the registries. registering is voluntary, but if certain registries have requirements of health and genetic testing and inspections that would be a sign of better quality dogs to buyers. of course inspections don't guarantee what people do when inspectors are not there, though.
Posted: 3:31:17 PM 10/8/2004
if you want change, then there are ways for you to work on it yourself for your little part in the world. that is fine. but think about this. who makes the decisions about things? who decides who can breed, how many dogs you can have, what you can do with them? then what if some other group wants to change other things? how many kids you can have, how you are supposed to raise them? there is always a group out there saying that the government should do this, or that. if the government did all of what everyone wanted to do nobody would ever be allowed to do anything. freedom comes with a price, and that price is giving other people the freedom to do things that you would not choose to do. if you want to live in a far more structered and controlled society there are plenty of places in the world that you can do that.
Posted: 3:41:49 PM 10/8/2004
well to say there is a huge difference between kids and dogs. I think the suffereing is coming at the expense of everbody but the owners, the dogs victims of bites, neighbors, with unwanted litters or poo in there yards.and with children who is held accountable? the parents are. and there are general standards for child care we have to follow. and to say where does the regulation end is always a concern. I think holding registries accountable for the dogs they registerries is a good idea but I see that being an almost impossible battle to win. and that also never holds owners/breeders accountable. there must be some resonsability and accountability to the people who breed and own.
Posted: 6:22:16 PM 10/8/2004
ok gunny, fair enough. here is a question, to whom should these people be accountable to?
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