I know you have had posts in the past about what is the best dog food. I think I remember people saying that the first ingredients should be meat.... I just checked my Eukanuba puppy food and the 1st two ingredients are chicken and meat-by-products... Which sounds like it would be o.k, but it seems to me I remember somebody saying that Eukanuba was not all it was cracked up to be. Any thoughts? Also Is Eukanuba the same company as IAMS?
Yes, it is. Meat by-products are.... well, what's left of the cow. Their organs, hooves, tongue, etc. In my opinion, Bil-Jac dry & Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover's Soul dry & wet are the best foods. Maybe Purina would fit in there, also, since they don't have a LOT of by-products. ---Allie the Chihuahua http://www.dogster.com/?41063 ---Mönica the Kitty http://www.catster.com/?57596
Eukanuba is an Iams product. PLEASE do not use Iams. They perform cruel and inhumane tests. Pointless tests. I cannot tell you what to do, I can only advice you, but as I told someone else on this forum, PLEASE see why I give you this advice. . . http://www.iamsodead.com
Oh, boy, it was a PETA agent that said all this. I surely believe them, but they think showing is "cruel." ---Allie the Chihuahua http://www.dogster.com/?41063 ---Mönica the Kitty http://www.catster.com/?57596
Katzpomdog- I saw you say that on another post. That was one reason I was asking if Iams and Eukanuba were the same company. However, like I asked on the other post, are you positive that is true? People and Companies are good at spreading rumors to hurt sales??
I should rephrase that, I don't always agree with how they handle things, sometimes they get a little over board but at the same time, in real cruelty times they get things done and don't mess around. I wish more people supported them.
Whole Dog Journal publishes a list every year of the best premium dog foods (based on quality of ingrediants). ...Not surprisingly, IAMS, Eukanuba, Purina, or any of the grocery store brands ever seem to make this list. I'll see if I can dig up a current copy and post it...
I honestly believe it. I know that Iams will buy litters of pups from brokers as well as take animals from shelters to do their testing on. You can contact Peta and find out more information on it if you'd want. I had a long talk with the Peta Investigator who has no interest in Pet food or companies but really wants people to know what is going on. From what I was told from all of the Peta people, they are not against all animal testing but pointless and inhumane tests are just wrong. There is no reason to have animals in the conditions that they are kept, not even given a bed or toys, or even a simple blanket to lay on. There is no reason to take out a chunk of muscle from their legs. There is no reason to do slot of the tests without anesthesia. There are so many things that they are getting away with that, if you were to do it, you would be arrested for animal cruelty. Why should they be allowed to hurt animals? There are plenty of other pet foods that do not test on animals.
Her are the 2003 WDJ top picks in alpha order... Artemis Natural 6 Mix Bench & Field Holistic Natural Canine Formula Burns Brown Rice and Ocean Fish Drs. Foster & Smith Adult Maint. Formula, Chicken and Brown Rice Go! Natural Super Premium Chicken, Fruit and Vegetable Diet Royal Canin Natural Blend Adult Formula Prairie Lamb & Rice Medley Verus GP Advantage Diet: Chicken Meal, Oats and Brown Rice 2 foods that are specifically NOT recommended based on their lack of worthwhile ingredients, Hill's Science Diet Nature's Best Adult Dog with Real Beef and Purina Beneful. They also mention that rotating between 3 or 4 top quality foods is better than sticking with just one food for all of your dog's life, which I would have to say makes a lot of sense. Top Picks from previous years(still recommended by WDJ): Azmira Classics Back to Basics California Natural, Innova Canidae Eagle Pack Holistic Select Flint River Ranch Hund-n-Flocken Millennia Limited Diets Duck and Potato Natural Balance Ultra Premium Lifespan Pinnacle Prime Life PHD Canine Growth and Maintenance Showbound Naturals Timberwolf Organics Wellness Super5 Mix Lamb Wysong Maintenance **also here is an article that gives a wealth of info about commercial kibble: http://www.api4animals.org/79.htm
Smooshie, thanks, that was very informative. I use Royal Canin Natural Blend and my dog seems to be doing fine. I also give her Hills TD, prescription dental food, which I am having doubts about now, since its on the not so great list. She likes them both. I was going to try BARF but OMG, too much work!
Dog Food Comparison Chart Dog Food First Eight Ingredients Human Grade Bil-Jac Select Fresh chicken by-products1 (organ meat only), fresh chicken, corn2, chicken by-product meal1, dried beet pulp (sugar removed), fresh chicken liver, brewers dried yeast, cane molasses7 No Eukenuba Adult Chicken, chicken by-product meal1, corn meal2, ground whole grain sorghum, ground whole grain barley, chicken fat, fish meal, Brewers rice3 No Flint River Ranch Chicken meal, whole wheat flour, ground rice, lamb meal, poultry fat, ground wheat, flax seed, dried whole egg Yes Flint River Ranch Lamb/Millet/Rice Lamb Meal, Ground Whole Millet, Ground Whole Rice, Rice Bran, Menhaden Fish Meal, Grapeseed Oil, Flaxseed Meal, Lecithin Yes Iams Adult Chicken, corn meal2, ground whole grain sorghum, chicken by-product meal1, ground whole grain barley meal, fish meal, chicken fat, dried beet pulp No Kibbles 'N Bits Corn2, soybean meal, ground wheat, beef & bone meal4, animal fat5 (BHA6 and citric acid used as preservatives), corn syrup7, wheat middlings, water sufficient for processing No Nutro Max Chicken meal, wheat flour, ground whole wheat, rice bran, poultry fat, corn gluten meal2, ground rice, lamb meal No Pedigree Ground yellow corn2, meat and bone meal4, corn gluten meal2, chicken by-product meal1, animal fat5 (preseved with BHA/BHT6), wheat mill run, natural poultry flavor, rice, salt7 No Proplan Adult Chicken, Brewers rice3, whole grain wheat, poulty by-product meal1, corn gluten meal2, beef tallow8, whole grain corn2, corn bran2 No Purina Beneful Ground yellow corn2, chicken by-product meal1, corn gluten meal2, whole wheat flour, beef tallow8, rice flour, beef soy flour, sugar7 No Purina Dog Chow Ground yellow corn2, poultry by-product meal1, corn gluten meal2, soybean meal, beef tallow8 preserved with mixed-tocopherols , brewers rice3, dicalcium phosphate, calcium carbonate No Purina One Chicken and Rice Chicken, brewers rice3, whole grain corn2, corn gluten meal2, poultry by-product meal1, whole grain wheat, beef tallow8 preserved with mixed tocopherols , natural flavors No Science Diet Natures Best Chicken Brewers rice3, ground wheat, turkey meal, corn gluten meal2, soybean meal, animal fat5, chicken, vegetable oil No Science Diet Original Chicken, corn meal2, ground grain sorghum, ground wheat, chicken by-product meal1, brewers rice3, soybean meal, animal fat5 (preserved with BHA6, propyl gallate6 and citric acid) No 1Meat by-products: Pet grade meat by-products consist of organs and parts either not desired, or condemned, for human consumption. This can include bones, blood, intestines, lungs, ligaments, heads, feet, and feathers. 2Corn: Corn products are difficult for dogs to digest. 3Food Fragments: Lower cost by-products of another food manufacturing process. Examples include wheat bran and brewer's rice (a waste product of the alcohol industry). 4Meat and bone meal: "Meat and bone meal" and "beef and bone meal" are inexpensive sources of animal protein. The protein in a meal containing a large amount of bone may be poorly digestible and fail to provide adequate nutrition. 5Animal Fat: Animal fat is a "generic" fat source that is most often made up of rendered animal fat, restaurant grease, or other oils too rancid or deemed inedible for humans. Look for a named fat source, such as poultry or chicken fat, that is naturally preserved. 6Chemical Preservatives: Chemical preservatives include butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA), butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT), propyl gallate, propylene glycol (also used as a less-toxic version of automotive antifreeze), and ethoxyquin. BHA, BHT, and ethoxyquin are potentially cancer-causing agents. The long term build-up of these chemicals (that may be eaten every day for the life of your pet!) have not been thouroughly studied and may ultimately be harmful. 7Sweeteners: Sweeteners such as corn syrup, sugar, and cane mallases are usually added to lower quality foods to increase their appeal. Dietary sugars can aggrevate health problems, including diabetes. 8Beef Tallow: A low quality fat product.
Labeling laws require pet food manufacturers to list ingredients in descending order of weight prior to cooking or processing. The principle component of chicken is water. By weight, a chicken is 70 - 75% water. So the truth is, when you see "chicken" on the top of an ingredient list, it means the water weight in the raw (wet) chicken is what qualified it to be listed first. After the cooking process, where up to 75% of the chicken evaporates, the actual chicken content is reduced to being the fourth or fifth ingredient in your pet’s food. So, for every five pounds of raw (wet) chicken used in some brands of pet food, as little as one pound may end up in the finished product. This occurs because 75% of a raw (wet) chicken is water, which evaporates during cooking process. But not with the chicken MEAL . It is fresh, human quality chicken meat with the water and fat removed. It takes 5 lbs. of fresh chicken meat to make 1 lb. of chicken meal So the general consensus is that Chicken MEAL is better than just plain Chicken on the ingredients list.
No, it wasn't on the Flint River Ranch site. I'll have to look back on my search to see where again. I suppose they could have used the same chart though. I think the chart was also from 2002. It's actually very hard to find unbiased comparisons of dry dog food. I though I had one bookmarked that told exactly what and how much ingredients for approx 50 types, but it may have been at home and I'm at work. LTLGTO