Over the past year I have been researching 2 different breeds of dogs. The Chocolate Lab and the Weimaraner. I previously owned a wonderful chocolate lab who 'magically' disappeared from our fenced yard - and was never located. I have been in the market to get a new addition to our family and chose these two breeds to research as I loved the lab I had, but found myself quite fond of the look of the weimaraner, as both seem to have equal temperaments. I heard of 'silver' labs - but have not had any luck researching them and have gotten mixed stories that they are either a weim/lab mix or that the 'silver' is actually just a lighter shade of the chocolate. Either way, I have decided to go with the Weimaraner. My predicament is that there are very few breeders of this dog in Tennessee - at least from what I have found. With that in mind, I have considered an internet purchase - but my gut instinct tells me NO. How do you really know who is legit on the internet? They can list a hundred references but that means nothing to me as I don't know that they didn't just use their 'friends' for the references. I am at the point that I am 'ready'. I want to purchase a dog but due to the limited availability of this dog in my area - I am having a difficult time. I am in need of a dog that is AKC/CKC/SCBCA/ or Parent Club registered so that I may participate in shows. Any suggestions on what you would do?
If you do purchase over the internet, there's some kind of service, I forgot what it's called, that will hold the money until you deem the purchase is legit and the dog is in good shape, then will either forward the money to the seller or give it back to you if you have a problem. Minniyar mentioned it once.
ansy, I don't know if this would help, but my husband and all his friends hunt, and many of them bought their dogs off the internet. (A few have weimies, gsp, and labs) What I would do is look for a breeder that actually hunts their dogs. Usually if they hunt them, or do hunting competitions, they aren't as likely to be a scam or puppy mill. I would also look for a breeder that offers bird training. A lot of these breeders will have birds on their property. They will talk about it on their website. It will say something like, quail, pheasant, duck, etc. If you email them, they will be willing to send you proof of any competitions their dogs have been in. If you find a breeder, don't tell them what state you are in. Say that you have a dog and that you want to have it professionally trained for hunting. If they offer to train your dog, and give you prices, then you know they do this sort of thing and raise dogs for hunting, not for breeding and are more legitimate. Then you can ask them about puppies they may have. I can find out what kennel my husband's friend got his weimie from if you would like. I think it was in Nebraska. Even if you're not going to use the dog for hunting, it would be best to buy one from that sort of background because it's kinda like buying a dog from someone who shows dogs. You know that they have a purpose, and that they aren't just breeding/selling puppies.
i also bought my pup scout off the internet. what i did was go to the breed's parent club and looked for referrals of breeders on there. none were in my area, well 1 was, but she didn't have a website for me to browse so i kept looking. i found one in florida, 1000 miles away from me in new jersey. i saw that she showed her male and i called her and spoke with her husband quite a few times. i emailed the breeder back and forth and she sent me a contract in the mail. with the contract she sent copies of her whole lines pedigree, health test results etc. and the history on the breed. it was a HUGE packet. pedigrees mean nothing to me as i don't know how to read them. i figured this woman supplied me with more info then i ever asked for so that put a pkus in the column for me. another benefit i had, which you don't from tennessee, is that her dog was showing at westminster and i got to go and meet him in person sonce i am only an hour from the garden. had i not been able to meet him i am sure i would have proceeded anyway. i was nervous the whole car ride down to florida. but pleasantly surprised when i got there. i had made the decision even if everything was not what i expected i would have bought scout anyway. i think if you speak with the breeders, and ask them tons of questions, you will get a pretty good feel for how they are. speak to several and see how they respond to you. listen to your gut instincts. and in my personal opinion.......going with a dog who is bred for a purpose other than the show ring, will usually wind up closer to your expectations of the breed.
I also purchased my Rhodesian Ridgeback on the internet. I spoke to the breeder several times and since my sister and a few friends actually lived in Florida, had them take a look for me. Then I purchased a ticket and flew down and met with the breeder first hand. When a breeder won't meet with you at their facility or home, don't do it. I've run into that recently in my search for a possible mate. Several people are either "not able to be home" or think it would be better to meet in a public place.
If you are open to adopting one, you could check to see if there is a breed specific rescue for them. I think they're a beautiful breed. They are the first breed I would look into if I decided to get a different breed from the one I own. I don't know if rescue is a route you want to take or not, but if so, here is one I just googled that's in Texas. It has good info too (though you've already researched). I ended up staying there and reading for a bit. http://weimrescuetexas.org/adoption.htm There were a good many weim rescues when I googled.
Dummy me didn't even think about a Weim rescue as I've never dealt with a rescue club. I wonder if it's possible to find a registered dog there. I'm not particular with any certain registry I suppose, so I might could go with one thats not so stringent with their registration poilicies and register a rescue with them. I only show as a hobby and have never been into it 'bigtime'. I think I like the socializing more than the shows. I love looking at other peoples dogs. I must say, that I do feel alot better knowing that some of you have purchased from the internet and I think you are right - good communication is the key.
I have Weimaraner's and I live in Tennessee. We do not hunt with ours as we love them as pets. They make wonderful pets and great with the children. Ours are part of our family. Shelby, my female lives in the house with us and sleeps with us. She is always right with us and is a real joy. The male lives outside in a heated dog house and has a fan in the summer days. He prefers to be outside.
If you are careful, buying a puppy from a breeder you've found out about on the internet can be a great thing. First off, I suggest you go to http://www.weimclubamerica.org/ That's the Weimaraner club of america site, and has a breeder referrel site and a list of great questions to ask of prospective breeders. As I've said in other posts, I consider weim breeders who hunt with their dogs and those who show of equal quality in the long run, as long as both breeders have done appropriate heatlh testing. Breeder referrel lists provide a great 'starting point' for people looking for dogs. Often breeders will have connections with other breeders who aren't on the 'official' breeder list, but are still quality and reputable breeders. Be extra sure to ask about contracts and guarantees of any breeder you go with. Good luck!
I think that one of the most important references you can check on a breeder is with their vet. Ask for their vet reference information and call them. The rescue site had lots of wonderful looking Weims. The parent club is another great place as has been suggested. Good luck in your search! ltlgto
Everyone's right- when you're very very careful, you can find the right breeder online. It's just tricky. I'm wondering, though- what type of showing do you plan to do? If you must do conformation- CKC and SCBCA will be worthless to you. Both are still awfully junky registries- with little to offer as far as shows. And although I strongly DO recommend you look into rescue dogs- they won't be eligible for conformation after being de-sexed. :) If you're more interested in field trials, obedience, and the like- you don't NEED a registration (as I understand it, purebred AKC recognized breeds can acquire an ILP registry for all events outside of conformation). Many times, dogs who end up in rescue and shelters are there BECAUSE they have characteristics that would make them wonderful performance dogs. They just need the right outlet! Weims, in particular- practically NEED to be worked. They have such an intense personality- they really do well with people who get them out and DO things with them. I've never thought of conformation shows as very much fun, anyway- they have a purpose and all... but they're rather dull. But the performance and obedience events- FUN! :)
In the past, I have shown in obedience and agility. I have never done conformation. I have done shows held by the AKC, but I live near the SCBCA headquarters (or whatever you call it) and therefore I have easy access to most all their shows. I would LOVE to enter a Weim in their Founders Favorite - but they have to be 2 y/o to enter. The SCBCA holds about 10 shows per year - thats enough to keep me busy. For me personally, they come closer to meeting my needs as a dog owner- thats why I like them. I'm still searching.......the one breeder I found that I liked doesn't even have a dog thats bred.