i think fox hunting is a horible sport, i paricuarly like foxes, but i think it is very cruil that about 60 dogs chasing it about and eventualy catching it and ripping it to bites. in england ect, there is a very big fight, about if it should be banned or not, i dont no if it happpens in ur country, but i think it is sick, if they want to get the population down cant they do it another way insted of the little think getting mauled by dogs. i was whatchin the tv yesterday and it was talking about the horrible sport, and they were a few people who were trying to stop it, most of them were badly injured, it even said that the dogs when they are young go out and track down little fox cubs, which i think is horrible. just imagine people with large dogs tracking down little dogs e.g chi and yorky and killing them like that, if that happened i would be very angrey, i hate animals when they suffer. what do u think????????
I do not like foxhunting, sunce the dogs eat the fox. I do believe in retrieving, flushing, and pointing sports with dogs, however. ---Allie the Chihuahua http://www.dogster.com/?41063 ---Mönica the Kitty http://www.catster.com/?57596
I am not against hunting of any kind as long as it is not illegal. I bass fish and will soon begin to take up deer and elk hunting. That does sound cruel though, allowing dogs to catch the fox and kill it on the spot. I thought they caught it and then brought it back. Anyway, if nobody was alowed to hunt deer we would be overrun with them. And pretty soon they would kill themselves because they would eat all the grass and tree leaves in their reach and starve.
I'm not 100% sure about fox hunting, but I find it unlikely that the dogs are allowed to "tear a fox apart". I know that with coon hounds, the dogs "tree" the coon until the hunters get there-they do not attack the animal. I would imagine fox hunting would be along the same lines, where the dogs just track the fox and do not actually attack. I don't know of any hunters that want a ripped up body of any animal.
I personally am against ALL hunting. I do not feel that there is a need for it. I do not see how someone can look an animal in the eyes and shoot it and kill it. What is worse is when the animal is not killed instantly, like with bow and arrow hunting. I love animals too much.
I don't mind hunting as long as the animal is not endangered. I think fox hunting should be allowed to continue if other types of hunting are also allowed to continue. Why should deer hunting, coon hunting, etc. be allowed and fox hunting not? They are just another game animal. I hardly think the dogs "rip the fox to shreds" either. Fox fur is quite valuable depending on quality, the hunter would not want it damaged by the dog unless he was hunting purely for sport and did not plan on keeping the fox skin. Even if he did not want to keep the skin, it would still be important that he not allow the dogs to "rip apart" the fox if possible. A dog cannot be trained to spare some foxes and not others. It must be trained to spare ALL the foxes if you ever plan on keeping ANY skins. If I remember correctly, the dogs are used only to track down the fox, so that the hunters can shoot it with a gun. ~Seij
to the ones who think that they don't sipe the fox to peces, sadly they do,most they only do it for spots, as i said that i was whatching the tv and it showed about 20 dogs ripping it apart, it was horrible, and then someone would pick it up and put it in a bag and probably put it in a bin or something, they dont do it for the skin.
hunting for survial = ok. hunting for any type of sport = BAD BAD BAD!!!! First off, I hate ALL hutning unless it is for survival. Second off, I WILL NEVER HUNT ANY TYPE OF CANINE INCLUDING WILD ONES FOR SPORT OR SURVIVAL. Just my opionon, but I think hunting for sport is cruel. I mean, retrievering is OK if it isn't done 24'7. For instance going out duck hutning with your dog if you use the duck for food or whatever is fine. Hutning every single day every waking moment of your life is not.
Although I am not disputing that fox hunters will use the dogs to kill the fox, I know for a fact that not ALL do it this way, just as not all people in the US have their dogs hunt coyotes and rip them apart (yes, some people in the US *do* do this!). Rather than banning all fox hunting, they should make a law banning using the dogs to kill the fox on purpose. ~Seij
I am not against it in the slightest because I am from England, also and where I come from it is like second nature, so I've been used to it since I was little. It does keep the population down and I think by the time the dog catches it, it usually dies instantly, so it would feel any pain if the dog does decide to rip it apart.Sorry if I upset anyone here.
well i am glad to see that this board is not completely dominated by anti hunters. KatzPomDogz, if you are agianst hunting, fine but learn about it more before you condem specifics. archery hunting is actually more effectve in achieving clean kills then rifle hunting. as far as all you folks that are against hunting in general or only against specific types of hunting, that is fine, you certianly have the right to feel the way that you do. just remember though that you do not have the right to step on the toes of those of us that feel differently. i won't take away your right to dislike it, do not try to take away my right to enjoy it.
I am for it. Well at least for hunting in general. People should be able to hunt if they want. Katz, Hunting helps keep the population under control. Around where I grew up, if you didn't shoot the deer, they would grow too numerous and starve. There aren't natural predators in many areas anymore and we have to regulate herd populations.
Iluvflatcoats I am also from England and it is far from second nature lol! being voted out 3 to 1 in the commons - more so in the country - and its not country vs towns either, I've met far more people in the countryside (where I live) who are happy to see that the 'sport' has been banned than I have met in the cities The fox is chased to exhaustion by the pack of dogs and the hunters on horseback, then it is ripped apart, far from being 'killed instantly' it is slaughtered by the dogs who are simply left to it - the hunters grabbing foxtails or wiping blood as a 'souvenir' Far from pest control these (foxes) are either caught before the hunt - to be released so the hunt can chase them, or bred specifically - how is that pest control? the pro-hunt lobby have been harking their livlyhood is going to stopped no-one using the dogs and horses anymore thus making them worthless - ever heard of drag hunting? as a btw the fox hounds and beagles are raised as a pack with every hunting instinct kept intact - these dogs cannot be retrained as pets, shock I hear you say until you learn that the average life-span is 2-3yrs for one of these animals before it is considered too old, younger pups (who are tethered to an older dog to learn the 'ropes') are pts sooner if they are considered too tame I am glad it has been banned over here - with effect in 2006 - its about time
hoosgow, I think, archery hunting is more effective in achieving clean kills ONLY because anybody can shoot a gun. I don't know for sure, but am willing to bet that this is the case. You have to work at archery to be good, so for the most part only qualified bow hunters hunt. I have seen tons of inept, idiots hunting with a rifle. As far as pure effectiveness goes, a gun will always beat a bow.
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Hunting for sport no,i'm against that,hunting to use the animal for food is ok.If the deer herds around here where not thinned out they would only die of starvation. Which is cruel, a slow starving death as oppossed to a quick death from a bullet or bow. My hubby is so excited ,Friday starts bow season,he can't wait. He usually gets 2 to 3 deers a season. Personally I love Venison if it's cooked right,and ya have a good butcher.
I like hunting. Fox hunting sounds nasty. I think it was socially acceptable when it began, because fox were considered vermin, ate good farm birds and gamebirds and it was an efficient enough way to eradicate them. Because they were considered vermin, I doubt anybody thought that they were cute. Some people like rats and mice. Some would rather they not be around (hey Aisha) I like snakes. Still it is cruel, I would not like it. Unless the year was 1800 and I needed my chickens or would starve.
my reply was in effect to fox hunting, as far as deer hunting goes it is humanely carried out by marksmen with a single blow from a shotgun - and they take out the ill, frail, sick deer as a first choice. Vension is largly a farmed meat Deer culling is essentail in some parts, but this is done as a means of population control - not a blood thirsty sport - that makes all the difference. As a final note regarding foxes: Farmers (in the Uk at least) are heavily subsidised by the government to help them keep vermin away from their stock, basically they are paid to put up better more secure fencing around their produce I dont believe I have ever seen a poor (working) Uk farmer, and there are many farms (dairy, livestock, cereal) where I am