Thanks Aisha. I appreciate the info. We are thinking of just going back to the food the breeder had him on before we got him - Premium Edge Puppy. It's only available in one store here - about 20 miles away - although I can get in online too. He did fine on it and it has good ingredients and that's how important his stools are to me!! lol Anyone have any experience with Premium Edge?
we serve innova dry for the ultimate doggie dining experience. we switched about 3+ mos ago. both are doing well on it and seem to like it. and snowball's coat has gotten so full, long, soft it's amazing. snoop's only been on it the 6 wks or so we've had him, so no difference yet.
Missy eats Flint River Ranch, it's on the list :-) . And the meat is human grade. I always tease my husband that I don't feel like cooking and he can have some of Missy's food. I found a pet store called Red Bandanna that only sells human grade foods, they sell lots of the ones that were on that list. They are a small chain, but are popping up all over.
This will gross everyone out!! When my Rottie was dying of cancer, I decided to start doing some research to see why all these dogs are getting cancer all the time. Well, I thought it must have something to do with the diet. So I started reading a lot of literature and as it turns out, these rendering plants reportedly purchase mass volumes of euthanized animals from shelters and process them into dog food. It makes sense to me that if a dog spends it's whole life eating food that was made out of other poisoned carcasses, then they could probably eventually get deathly ill from it. So, I walked through Petsmart one day and literally read the ingredients on every bag of food in the store. I don't buy anything with by-products anymore. I give them Natural Choice Lamb and Rice Puppy Food. I mix a little bit of canned food and warm water to make it taste better. Science diet was the only one I could find without by-products. I also read that the only meat most dogs are not allergic to is Lamb. The dog food I use has no by-products, is lamb & rice, and contains no wheat. Unfortunately, I couldn't find one cat food product that did not contain by-products. I guess they aren't as worthy.
Mollysmom that thing about dog food renderers using euthanized shelter animals as a source of food is completely untrue. The FDA has done DNA analysis of many different kinds of dog food, and have found no evidence whatsoever of dog or cat dna in the food. Not only that, don't down byproducts, they are a healthy and natural source of nutrition both in the wild and in dog food. By products are non meat organs like the skin, lungs, spleen, liver, etc. All are extremely high in vitamins and minerals required for normal growth. Yes it sounds gross to Americans in particular (cause we're stupid like that, most other countries eat the whole animal, including organs), but think about it. When a lion or a wolf kills an antelope, they always eat the organs in the gut first. They don't go after the meaty haunches or the shoulder, where the most meat is. Why? Because that's where the highest sources of nutrients are.
Please Do NOT use IAMS Products! That includes Eukanuba. They do cruel animal testing. Pointless and cruel testing. Their has been many attempts to get them to stop but they refuse. Testing on animals is not all bad, I personally disagree with it but understand that some needs to be done. But IAMS has admitted at points where dogs where having hunks of flesh removed from their legs and thighs to be tested to see how certain dog foods were affecting certain things. They have admitted to doing cruel things and have said that they would change but it has been proven that they haven't yet. PETA has done many ivestigations. I personally have talked to one of the investigators and heard how horrible that company really is. More bad things. . . and this involves many companies that do testing, animals are SOLD from shelters to testing labs. Some animals are sold to colleges for vet training, and many of them get to be the 'test' dog for euthanisia. My shelter has a strict rule about selling for testing. Meaning they will not AT ALL. Also, I know that Iams and probably other companies that test on animals will by whole litters of animals from Brokers and Puppymills to do their testing on. In one case the head supervisor(I believe) was irritated at all of the barking going on, so he ordered the dogs be debarked. Please if you use IAMS, please educate yourself and don't support this sick industry. Here is a starting point, if you use IAMS...... http://www.iamsodead.com Please stop using IAMS and IAMS products!!!
Katzpom, if it wasn't for the fact that my computer has melted down and my motherboard is gone forever, I'd access my hard drive and show you a letter that addresses the PETA mistruths regarding the IAMS. Sometimes I wish this stupid Search function on this board worked, I've posted it here multiple times. IAMS works in conjunction with the ASPCA and has every single facility inspected regularly to prevent cruelty from happening. They don't do kill testing. Remember PETA has a knack for twisting everything to make themselves look better. Heck they wholeheartedly support the ALF, an organization that's is officially a terrorist entity by the US government.
Here's what I'm talking about regarding the IAMS/ASPCA relationship. http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iams When you follow that link, click on 'Site 1' and read it closely. You will see what conditions the ASPCA reps find in the facilities and the regulations governing the care of animals under IAMS.
I know that there are more than one IAMS facility and that one sounds like how it should be, but I talked to one of the actual investigators who worked at a IAMS facility undercover. What he told me was shocking. I have seen video tape of a litter of beagle pups when they first came in and they were all bouncing and jumping, acting like pups, one week later when the investigator(a different one than the one I talked to) went back the pups were back against the wall and terrified of her. It was so sad, I have NEVER seen pups so scared of people. I would like to see proof of how good the IAMS facility is, as I have seen how bad it can be, I would like more proof to show that it has changed. In the mean time, I will still not support IAMS or use it's products.
Katz, that's why I provided those ASPCA links that detail the conditions of the dogs at IAMS facilities on the link. If you read the site, it clearly states that the ASPCA does unannounced visits to IAMS facilities. Not just ONE facility, but apparently all of them, since it uses the plural 'facilities'. I'm not sure it's possible not to support IAMS or its products honestly. Heck if you purchase ANY Proctor&Gamble procuct, you're technically supporting them as they own IAMS. And if you support the ASPCA you are supporting IAMS. Hi there, global economy and businesses. Everything's connected.
Thank you for presenting both sides of the Iams case. Both my cat and Bella have been on Iams, as I thought it was one of the "better" foods out there. Now I'm conflicted. Is it too late to change? Bella is just 4 months, but my cat is 4 years old and been on Iams since we had him at 2 months old. For those of you that order online for better savings...where do you order from?
I personally think of IAMS, Science Diet, and Eukanuba type foods as 'mid grade' foods. It's not junk food like kibbles and bits, but it's not treating your dog to the dog food version of the Outback Steakhouse every night either. I find it hard to believe I'd save money by buying dog food over the internet. I have seen the prices of fosters and smith dog food, and for a person who's feeding 2 large dogs, that's completely unrealistic price wise. Again, for me another case of the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' syndrome
There's a book called "The Consumer Guide to Dog Food"( What's in dog food, Why it's there and How to choose the Best Food For Your Dog.) by Liz Palika For mollysmom and Minniyar: However, some states do inspect manufacturing plants, especially those producing canned pet foods. In the majority of states it is legal (and common practice) for pet food manufactures to use what are known as "4-D" meat sources--animals that are dead, dying, diseased, or disabled when they arrive at the slaughterhouse. Dr. P. F. McGargle, a Veterinarian and a former federal meat inspector, believes that feeding slaughterhouse wastes to pet animals increases their chances of getting cancer and other degenerative diseases. He said, "Those wastes include moldy, rancid or spoiled processed meats, as well as tissues too severely riddled with cancer to be eaten by people."
I have fed many of the dog foods listed on the Whole Dog Journal list. None of those are junk, however if your dog doesn't like them your dog will probably not "bloom" as they call it. I have had the best luck with a food not on the Whole Dog Journal list. Blackwood Pet Food is the brand I feed. I feed their 2000 formula, which my Mini Schnauzer does extremely well on. They offer several formulations, with very impressive ingredient lists. I buy it from their web sight and have also sent them a money order. And another thing, you call them for recomendations they actually answer their telepone! Amazing!
Heinz bought out Nature's Recipe years ago. They changed the brown rice to white...I was told by a backstage guy that they would not have spent all that money for garbage...so they have not diluted the formula to the point that I find it unusable...But I like Nutro natural Choice a lot lately, Puppy and Ultra puppy.
I did a lot of research and I have been feeding my dog Fromm Family Four-Star Nutritionals Duck and Sweet Potato formula. I found it in the list published in Whole dog journal and my dog is doing excellent on it. Better appetite, coat, and energy. I also called them for some recommendations on feeding and I connected directly to a real person who was very helpful. -- I would recommend any of their foods. You can get information from their website at www.frommfamily.com -- Good Luck!