I've seen alot of discussion here lately regarding 'designer mutts'. I found this website and just had to share. I know many pro-'designer mutt' fans out there will flame me for this but I don't care. This is for anyone who wishes to educated themselves some more regarding this issue. There's alot to read here. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/NoPuppyMillsVA/Poo-dogs___Designer_Mutts/poo-dogs___designer_mutts.html I personally found it very interesting.
interesting. actually, the mix puppies and dogs in shelters are no different than the designer mutts being created. the designer mutts are mixes, too. and the shelter dogs can be just as cute, wonderful, and companionable as what people want in a "poo" or a "doodle" or a "teddy bear" dog.
Exactly Pearl..that's the point that people seem to be missing. Why purposely breed a mix when so many are waiting for homes? Why pay someone $700 for a mix when you can go to the SPCA and get one for $65 and save its life in the process? Perhaps the shelters don't have the exact mix you want everyday, but if you are patient and persisant, eventually a sweet poddle mix will pop up. These people seem to be able to go out of there way to find a designer mutt, when they could use that energy to find that same mix in rescue or in a shelter. Poodle rescue, shih-tzu rescue, pug rescue etc..these rescues have LOTS of dogs waiting for homes..meanwhile people just keep breeding. Very sad. And this isn't just a mix breed issue. I find it just as sad that we have so many Boston Terriers in rescue and these backyard breeders keep breeding them and selling them at flea markets..and people keep buying them. Just a vicious cycle. I think breeding should be left up to professionals..but sadly, everyone thinks they are a professional. *sigh*
yep, or people think that their dog is the best, sweetest dog, friends want that dog's puppies, and that dog should have puppies. the ones in the shelters and rescue are exactly the same way (well, many of them.)
yeah, I keep seeing people say that their '-insert designer mutt name here-' is the sweetest dog in the world. Well, no doubt, no one is trying to put anyone's dog down here or say that these dogs aren't wonderful, but there are many wonderful dogs out there and I wish that everyone would take responsibilty and NOT encourage these backyard breeders and mix breed breeders to continue what they are doing. Giving them money just encourages them to breed more, same with puppy mills. What is wrong with a nice Shih-tzu..are they not wonderful as is? Poodles? Pugs? Why are they not good enough that they need to be mixed? Or if one really wants a poodle-mix, visit www.petfinder.com. Very sad. But it doesn't matter what we say Pearl, it's only our 'opinion' and people will still do whatever it takes to get what they want..regardless of consequences. People don't see a bigger picture, they just see the cute face of one of these little pups. We're powerless. I was feeling very frustrated last week, I decided I just need to not get so upset, but I almost feel like totally backing away from doing rescue because it's just a losing battle. Take Care!
I have 2 of what some of you are calling "designer-mutts". Schnoodles. But i didn't pay for them. They were a mistake actually! The parents of the schnoodles are both mine and were both strays/rescues. And I completely agree with you all. Why pay $800 for a dog when you can give one a home that needs it just a lil bit more. But some people just have a need to know the lines that the dog is coming from. There is that uncertainty with rescues that you don't know what you're getting. Some people are not comfortable with that. My Poodle was a rescue. She had an older-lady owner who passed and left her with a family that didn't want her. They abused her and dropped her off somewhere. Someone found her and took her to the shelter, we got her - for free. But if the lady that found her in the street hadn't found the owners - we would have neve rknown any of her history. I wouldn't trade my Precious for anything in the world. But you can't knock people who have the money and want the satisfaction of that guarantee. It's not that they don't have a heart, they just have a need to be sure of what they are getting. I would definately tell anyone to go to a shelter first. But if they wanna buy - who am I to discourage them!
I think it's one thing that some people believe that a precific mix makes the best pets, but it's another thing that they pass it along as it is a breed. Most of these designer mix breeder are just want to make money. In fact most purebred breeders do it for the money. People need to know what make a breeder reputable.
What irritates me is there are 11 million unwanted animals dying every year and these people only perpetuate the problem. It's one thing to have a mutt if it's a mutt and your calling it that. But there shouldn't be a kennel club for it. There shouldn't be breeders unless there are for pug/ chow chow/ poodle/ german shepherd/ pitbull mixes that are called mutts willingly by owners. I don't like the fact that while there are animals dying in masses at shelters, people are spending $500 dollars on a schnoodle or bichpoo instead of fifty on a homeless one. The same might be said for real breeders and AKC recognized dogs being sold, but I do believe that the real breeds, current breeds should be maintained to keep that ancestry that all dogs have in them somewhere.
Frosty, I have to disagree with you as far as purebred dogs. When you get a purebred dog from a reputable breeder, you know what you are getting. If I purchase a newfoundland, or a border collie, I can be pretty certain that dog will at least retain some of the working habits for which it was bred. Water rescue and draft work int he case of the Newf, and herding in the case of a BC. Many things that working dogs especially were bred to do you can't find in a generic mixed-bred dog at the humane society. I have a mixed breed dog named Bowen we adopted 4 years ago, and while I am pretty sure he's got some kind of shepherd blood somewhere in his muddled history, he has no instinct for water, herding, draft work, tracking, or anything else other than being a great all around dog (and loving pizza crusts) When people buy terriers, they're pretty sure to get a dog that has a strong instinct for chasing and killing small prey. Doberman pinschers and boxers usually have a good instinct for being watchdogs. The list goes on. Regarding companion dogs from the toy and nonsporting groups, I personally think that's all about the look of the dog, not about picking what it was bred to do. However, once again you are going to have an idea of what the temperament of the dog is just by knowing what breed it is. How many people come on this board and say that Boston Terrier is a great dog, can be hyper active, can have breathing problems due to small muzzle/windpipe? You know that from the day the dog is born because you know it's a boston terrier. Yo uknow that a dalmatian is going to have spots and probably will be a hyper high energy dog. You don't know stuff like that when you get any mixed breed dog, even the 'poos' and widely growing designer mutts. A cockapoo or labradoodle may or may not be low shed. Or have a nose for hunting or retrieving. Or may or may not be spastic, or a mouthy, or a chewer, or a digger. Or anything else it could possibly inherit behavior wise from any of the dogs used to make those mutts. Does this make mutts bad? Of course not!! But what is bad is people deceptively touting the mutts they're purposefully breeding as a 'new breed' to get cash when it is no more than a mix of two breeds. And the people who say they are doing it to 'improve the breeds' are full of crap. "People say they love how my puggle looks and want one because it is so cute!" Reality check. There are millions of cute dogs down at the humane society dying every year, because of irresponsible breeders like you, Mr or Mrs Designer Mutt Breeder, who do not spay and neuter your dogs, who don't do health testing on your dogs, or give them proper vet care, or anything else that any selfrespecting responsible breeder does. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, it sure isn't a chicken with a talent for water. Rant off. Sorry my neighbors have once again not spayed their dogs that had litters 6 months ago, so now one is having her 2nd litter and she's not even 18 months old, and her mother is on her 3rd.. or is it 4th litter. Gah. People should get a clue.
When someone buys a Designer Mutt, or any dog, they should try to get one from a USDA licensed kennel. People find fault with some of these but they are by far the best in the country. Your chances of getting a good healthy dog from a clean, well run kennel are very good. Designer mutts are usually from two different breeds and you should be able to get a pedigree on the sire and dam. When anyone buys a Designer Mutt or Hybrid they know they are from two different breeds, that is the reason they want them. People know they are usually much healthier. The people that buy them do not want them for breeding or show. They want a unique family pet that doesn't look like most other dogs. People that can afford them are not a bunch of dummies, they don't want a litter of pups from them as people that buy the AKC dogs sometimes do.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/01/0115_040115_tvdesignerdogs.html#main more on those cute little dogs you love called designer dogs. the fashion accessory no yuppy should be with out this summer.
For the person that said that mutts are usually more healthy than purebreeds you are wrong. Every dog has its problems. I have a AKC Great Dane and I did not buy him to show or breed I bought him to be a loving family member. He has never been sick. I better knock on some wood. He is so much healthier than my neighbors mutt. He is regular on all his shots, he eats very healthy, and he gets exercise everyday. Like I said though everydog has its faults. I sure wouldn't pay anything for a mixbreed. Thats like robbery. I would take one if given to me just so it would have a good home. Okay I'm done. I have been sick for three days and in a bad mood.
no i think there right. mixed breed dogs have fewer genetic disorders. . i do not advocate breeding designer dogs. formerly known as mutts or random breeds cause my local pound has no shortage of these guys. but you do role your temperment dice with a mixed breed
COMONCENTS - I don't agree with the USDA recommendation. Most [but not all] kennels that are USDA licensed, are pretty fair size commercial kennels and do so, so they can sell to pet stores! I do however agree with your statement of: >>>When anyone buys a Designer Mutt or Hybrid they know they are from two different breeds, that is the reason they want them. They want a unique family pet that doesn't look like most other dogs. People that can afford them are not a bunch of dummies, they don't want a litter of pups from them as people that buy the AKC dogs sometimes do. <<<< I think it is an insult to any educated person that decides to purchase a socalled "designer breed" - of which I extremely dislike the term - to indicate that they are stupid, thoughtless or irresponsible for wanting or owning one! And quite frankly - it doesn't matter how much money they paid for it - whether it is from a free ad in the paper or well priced from a breeder. MINNIYAR - I agree with your statement" >>>Regarding companion dogs from the toy and nonsporting groups, I personally think that's all about the look of the dog, not about picking what it was bred to do.<<< I think that is very true in regards to the smaller mixed breeds - cuteness, easy to groom/care, fair intelligence and a mellow personality is mostly desired. What I don't agree with, is that you lay the blame solely at the breeders feet for dogs in shelters - >>>There are millions of cute dogs down at the humane society dying every year, because of irresponsible breeders like you, Mr or Mrs Designer Mutt Breeder, who do not spay and neuter your dogs, who don't do health testing on your dogs, or give them proper vet care, or anything else that any selfrespecting responsible breeder does.<<< Most mixed breed dogs in animal shelters are "ooopses" of the unspayed family pet, and with only a small percentage of toy size purebreds or "designer dogs" bred on purpose. It is also quite obvious that toy and med. size purebreds and "designer mixes" tend to get adopted before anything else - why? Because they are cute! Let's put the blame for unwanted/ undesired mixed breeds in shelters where it needs to be - with the irresponsible pet owner, who is too cheap to get their male or female neutered. Let's talk about the ones who will pick up a cheap or free doggy out of the newspaper or down the street or from a friend or associate, because they can afford it or because the kids want it [knowing darn well that the kids will get tired of it soon and the care gets left to the parents, who consequently designate the dog to living outside in the yard because it makes too much of a mess in the house!] - and then neglegt the dog outside and leave it free to be bred by any cruising neighborhood dog. Designer mixes and family oopses are generally [not all the time, but generally] 2 pair of shoes - one is a desirable companion and well received and generally well cared for by their new owners [after all - if they can afford to spend a bundle on it in the first place, they want to preserve its health + longevity and can afford taking care of it] vs. a free, cheap or very affordable ooops where you do not know what you are getting and what it is going to turn into. [Not to be knocking ooopses, as they also will make fine pets and loving companions to someone who doesn't care what they look like - but it is pretty much like playing lotto - you have no clue if it is going to be cute or turning into a werewolf look-a-like as it matures. ]