I wondered if anyone else noticed this. "breeders" (as in bybs) commonly using phrases that you'd see from responsible breeders and ones speaking highly of their kennel. Things I say, but almost feel like a sham saying or like they don't carry any weight, not because I don't mean them, but because every other "breeders' says them when you know it isn't true of their kennel. Anyone can say anything, especially about themselves, but its misleading and dishonest (not that they care) and it makes those who are truthful seem less meaningful. Examples are like breeders who claim to be breeding to better the breed. But really they are not, they are just taking their pets and breeding them together because they want to be a breeder, keep a pup/buy a couple more dogs to call themselves a "kennel". They make no effort to better the breed or their progam. But they talk of their so called betterment and good breeding program. When all thats involved in their so called "program" is breeding any two dogs together without any selective breeding, research, thought, ect. They have no culling process. Say they breed for quality and not quantity, but you see no real quality in their dogs and nothing is done to produce a quality litter. Some even have several breedings/litters available and its almost all the time or often enough. I also never understand this comparison, you can produce only one litter every 2 years but that doesn't make it quality? Some one can produce several in one year but they all be quality dogs that are going to great places, the ones that aren't kept by the breeder. Also looking at most they can't even wait until their dogs are mature enough to breed. One guy was breeding a 12 month old and had within the next 2 months (making him only 14 months old) 5 more planned breeding to 5 more females, in all this he was searching for ANOTHER female to breed him with. He said he breed for quality. Sounds more like non quality, quantity breeding to me? Say their dogs have great, wonder, perfect conformation but you can see with your own eyes they do not, a lot even have several faults and wouldn't be nothing in the show ring. They also say they breed show quality dogs, but don't show their dogs or own any show quality dogs, but some how their pups would be show quality? They also don't breed for money but charge a lot for their dogs. They charge more then responsible breeders, happily taking peoples money and selling them a lie. The reason I breed is to improve my yard and the breed as a whole, bettering the breed by adding quality dogs to the gene pool and to my own stock as well as those "partners" I have. Very occasionally having produced a dog that may only be pet quality going to a home thats going to be a responsible pet owner, knows about the breed and is willing to actually take care of the dog and provide it with a REAL good home. I'm very selecting about which dogs make it in the breeding program, what outside dogs are used in the program and spend endless hours thinking about the pro/cons of a breeding, who'd be he best together, what might the outcome be, ect. I cull as needed, I don't make excuses for dogs that are not breed quality, I don't breed them and think "maybe they'll produce better" or "I can just breed them anyway, it doesn't really matter" or "they are pretty, they are nice". I'm always concerned with the best possible quality I can get from a breeding, the proper care and health of my animals, where the pups will end up, ect. I'm never for the quanity, I don't believe in peddling and hate mass producing puppy mills and don't agree with using dogs for finacial game. I might have an "excess" pup that I don't have room for that I'd have to sell, I like to refrain from advertising/selling dogs however. I do prove my dogs before breeding, showing them and not only that but chosing dogs of PROPER TEMPERAMENT which is very important and dogs of health that should produce good, quality offspring as they themselves have proven to be. As well as being true show quality. True to the breed in type and temperament. I take time to research the dogs I have and know whats behind them well and find this very important to what they might produce. I'm honest and never misrepresent what I have. Yet I feel saying these things are cliche, and hold no weight. I know its about the truth and being honest and theres nothing wrong with letting people know what you're all about and your goals. But mine are real and so many others are not and are practically puppy mills themselves and yet they say all the same things?
Am I crazy or does it say there are 3 posts here? Because the only post I see is True_Pits post? Anyhow Great post True_Pits my biggest pet peeve among breeders is when they say we breed only for betterment of the breed....OK then Im thinking why do you have 2-3 litters for sale and all at Outrageous prices? It seems more to me like a lot of so called breeders are only concerned with "betterment of the wallet" Bluebelles breeder certainly snowballed my husband the breeder was basically selling her pedigree. It really would not have mattered if Bluebelle had major faults all her breeder could talk about were all the Champions in her bloodlines and that is what she bases the price of her puppies on. Bluebelle did turn out to be an awesome dog and she has great show potential but for what my husband paid for her truly she should be laying Golden Eggs.
The term I hate to read is, 'The puppies are raised underfoot with our children'.....that may be true in some situations, but most of the time they are lying. They're out in kennels and the kids might come stick their fingers through the wires to let them lick them sometimes....arg.
Truepits, I am also amazed by the number of breeders who claim to have 'show quality' dogs when they have never once shown their dogs, or been to a dog show. Or they have been to a few dog shows with their dogs, but their dogs have no points. If you browse through the 'dogs for sale' on here, nearly every single dog posted for sale is listed as having show potential. Heck my mixed breed dog has show potential... right up until they excuse him from the ring. Another thing is the number of dog buyers/sellers who believe 'champion bloodlines' is a great thing. My purebred akita had 2 champions in her pedigree.. both were great grandparents. By that token, yep she had champion bloodlines too!
GinaH I have to agree Bluebelle is an awesome dog, being that her she has RE line I'm sure you had to overpay. They can go on all day about this CH that CH, but there dogs can look nothing like these ancestors. Bluebelle looks pretty good though! Not like the others I see coming from this line. Minn thats exactly what I mean, I was looking the other day and I clicked on some and OMG they had some of worse structure and conformation I've seen, but they say "show quality". And there was some ad place I was on and you basically click what the dog has in the ad. Like CH sire, show potenially, pet potenially, ect. A lot of them were said to show/perfect pet potential but they were not show quality and some were at unbelievable prices. I remember one white Boxer show/pet potenially who was $1000.
I agree with what everyone has said but for some reason, I just hate it when people say, ' they have been raised underfoot in our home and they come to you pre-spoiled' Everyone says that now, I think it is just kind of corny and it just bugs me. I like to take and spoil my dogs on my own. I would prefer a pre-very well socialized dog rather than pre spoiled any day!
"I don't like the fact that people breed mutts because they are "the cutest dog in the world" They sre hurting the dog and animal shelters. I also don't like BYB's." I don't either, but what about purebreds? Bybs are bybs no matter what they're breeding and they're putting dogs in shelters. You wouldn't believe how many Pit Bull owners I meet who want to breed their female because "she's the cutest dogs ever and has the best temperament" now only one of them can be telling the truth...lol They can't all have the cutest and best temperament....lmao