I am going to first say what I great ride I had this morning. I love those days when you start out and there are a few kinks that you can identify and then by the end of the ride you have worked those kinks right out and you finnish with a really good jump. When we got and started Pi (two years ago) she would kind of loose her engine coming up to the jump so you needed quite a bit of leg, then we got her moving forward and jumping up but then we ran into trouble with her running a little and jumping flat. Well, today we found a really good rhythem and she was going really nicely between my hand and leg, moving up to the jump and jumping really round. It looked like a lovely hunter ride, now we just need to perfect it, get her doing her lead changes consistantly (she does right to left but is really stiff from left to right) and then we will hopefully get her going in the show ring. I am so pleased with how she is coming along, She has been jumping realy well for me lately and it feels really good. I will blaber on about horses all day so if I bore you with my updates just shut me up, lol :)
And now onto my question, Pi gets thrush on and off, I usually just use some javex in it and it dries it up but it isnt really effective, it takes a few treatments and it always comes back. There is this stuff called Thrush Buster that I used a while back but I havent been able to find it again. What do you all use and once you clear it up does it usually stay away?
I've used Coppertox and that's what my farrier recommends. When my horses were working a lot with cattle, it seemed that I was always battling it with their hooves getting packed full, but the Coppertox worked pretty good. You may want to wear gloves when applying, as I remember it stained my hands-I think it was green-but it's been a while ago.
I remember the days! I just can't even go to a rodeo anymore. I used to barrel race and what a thrill it was-even if it was only 16 seconds! My barrell horse is getting old, so now we've retired on to trail events and he does really well, but we haven't done them for a while now. I have one that is up and coming, but not sure if he'll be a good barrel racing horse or a working cattle or cutting horse. I"ve always wanted to try jumping, English or even an endurance event, but just can't get my butt out of that western saddle! LOL
***Edited By: myshadow on 6/19/2005 1:29:03 PM*** Reason: add
In Western horses how does showing work? Do your barrel horses also do the cutting and other herding events? And are your show horses also your working horses? Also, where do they get the bucking horses for the 'bucking bronko' type classes?
Do you have an actual working ranch and use your horses to herd, I think that is really cool. I would love to try it one day. I have ridden in a western saddle on dude ranches to do trails and stuff. I also learned to ride in a western saddle (but I learned to ride english style, short stirrups and all). When you are really little having that pummel to grab if in need is a lifesaver :) Once I started jumping though I moved to an english saddle, good luck trying to go into a jumping position with that pommel in the way!!
Oh there's so much you can do. Growing up, I did all of the events-Western Pleasure, Reining, Western Riding, Barrell Racing, Pole Bending, Halter, Trail, Showmanship. But I grew up on a cattle farm and ranch, so I really liked speed more. So I worked harder with my horses to excell in speed events like Barrell Racing and Pole Bending and took up rodeo-quite the thrill, but a quick one. As I got older and was able to work around cattle (I started showing at 8, but riding alone at 3) I started cutting and also team penning. Only competing in team penning and using the cutting as work related. I loved the competition admosphere of these events-pretty laid back. I"ve tried to rope a few times, but have to admit I'm not the best-but it's still fun. Now that I am married and have owned a cow/calf pair herd and my barrell horse is now retired, I used them for fun riding and work with the cows and bulls. We haven't had cattle for the last few years, but have been working with them with my son as I hope he'll decide to take it up one day or at least be a skilled rider with the appreciation for the work it takes to own and care for a horse.
As far as the rodeo stock, they actually aren't mean horses at all, despite the way they act when they are competing. They get super care, in fact better care than most horses-as they are very valuable and treated as atheletes. They of course are not ridable, but the initial reason they will buck is from the cinch that is placed in a sensitive area, then they continue with the spurring that the cowboy does. After the cowboy is thrown, you see usually 2 cowboys on horseback go after the bronc and try to remove the cinch to relieve the pressure right away. The rest of the time, they spend lounging as a herd and getting super nutrition and proper care. I have never seen or met one that was aggressive, although I am sure they're out there somewhere. Some come from a long line of athletic horses that are hard to train and break for riding. Sounds horribly mean and cruel, but truth be told, with the short time they 'work' they receive some of the best care I have ever seen for any horse-work or pleasure. I'm sure they enjoy the herd lifestyle with all of the fringe benefits of the diet and medical care and not looking for food.
PS-I have jumped way too many times in a western saddle-over fences, over logs, or creeks in pursuit of cattle and YES it hurts to hit the pommel or the horn. Should find a way to carry a rope and dally it somewhere on an English saddle! LOL
***Edited By: myshadow on 6/19/2005 2:29:03 PM*** Reason: Add
Hi I used to live in the very wet Pacific Northwest where thrush and rain rot are very common. My horses always had proper shelter, so I never had a rain rot problem, but thrush is a constant enemy! I found that plain old bleach was the most effective and cheapest remedy. I had one TWH mare that was more prone to it, so I just bleached her every week and she never had a problem.
Just clean the hoof and use a squirt bottle to apply to the bottom of the hoof.
myshadow- I knew about the cinch but i didnt know that the cowboy was supposed to keep the horse bucking. I have watched (a very small amount) of the rodeo on tv and so I had picked up that the cowboy is graded on his form and now that makes a lot more sence.
About the horses in the rodo. Who owns them? Are they owned by the venue or do they lease them? And if they can not be broken, what do they do with them after their carrer is over?
Actually the horses and bulls are generally owned by the same 'rough stock' company. They are owned by a rough stock company and the company is hired by the promoters of the rodeo to bring the horses and bulls in and care for them. During their trips, the promoter must provide an area to keep them during the day and night and then they travel back to the rought stock companies facility or pastures when the rodeo is done. They are ridden more than once, the goal is not to make them ridable. At national functions, like the championships, they chose the best rough stock from around the country for the best competition from the cowboys-so many different stock companies are involved there.
The rough stock are not generally mean and aggressive, I've petted many of the broncs-prefer to stay away from the bulls though. It all depends on the company that owns them, but they generally have pastures to put the herd in. At first when I used to think about it, I thought about how horrible it must be. Then someone pointed out that they have more freedom than racing horses and even a more comfortable life. I have yet to see one with a tangled up tail or mane or overgrown hooves-not sure I'd want to brush them!
The other horses used for roping, barrell racing, pole bending, goat tying, steer undecorating, steer wrestling, etc are all privately owned generally by the competitor or are under the responsibility of the competitor. I have a friend that has wanted to lease my older barrel horse for team roping-as the horse is super at it-just not me! Only the 'rough stock' horses (broncs) and bulls are brought in by another company, and sometimes the sheep (which just run-usually don't buck) and the sometimes the roping steers and calves-but not always.
Before I started competing in barrell racing at the rodeo level-which can get pretty expensive-especially if you don't win or come in the money, I competed in Rodeo Queen Contests. They were a lot of fun, but very frustrating for me, as many of the competitors were doing it, not from looking at it is a rodeo thing, but more like a beauty pagent and they would just sit there pretty and their horse was pretty much mechanical. Then one year, they threw us for a loop. After all was done in the horsemanship, interviews, testing and reining, they had us just run our horses as fast as we could to the opposite end of the arena-one at a time. They wanted to see who could actually 'handle' a speed horse. Well that did it for most of them! That was the best I ever did and received 2nd runner up with a pretty tough group of ladies. NOw they have them do more cow handling-which should be how it is for a rodeo queen.
What's also fun are the playdays that we do. LIke putting an egg in a spoon and going threw the gates without dropping it. Then as the competition gets tougher, we do sliding stops, take the feet out of the striups, spins, etc. I loved that. Then there's the pick up race, where you have one person at the other end of the arena and you race down, scoop the person up and both of you must be on at the finish line. My friend and I were standing champions of that fun event for 5 straight years.
But I do have to say the one of my proudest moments ever, was when I was competiting in a open show in reining and did the best I ever have done and I looked over and there was the county fair director in a golf cart yelling at me to come on over. He wanted to introduce me to FAITH HILL! She saw the whole pattern, what a glory moment-I just love her!
Another one you can try is Thrush-X, but again wear rubber gloves, they all stain your hand and it does not wash out right away.
Your brought me down memory lane for a bit there. I use to ride rough stock and a bit of roping when I was young as well. I think I have met 2 mean horses while competing. These horses actually were out to hurt you, but like you said 99 out of 100 are not mean at all.
I disagree with you about the rough stock, they will buck without the bucking cinch, the cinch just makes them buck harder and higher.
I have been thinking about getting into cutting now that I am a bit past my prime. I tried a friends horse and it was fun. Some of my friends are now team penning, but I don't know if I want that, it seems like all the old men are doing that cause they can't do what the once did anymore. Reigning is an entire different diciplent.
***Edited By: Renorey on 6/21/2005 7:11:53 PM*** Reason: additional info
myshadow. glad to meet another rodeo queen competior. i spent a year as a IPRA rodeo queen- loved it.
to the persons who wonder about how the animals are treated the IPRA and the PRCA & PCA have VERY strict rules about animal welfare that their stock contractors have to follow with VERY touch enforcements. they follow them WILLINGLY because when you spend thousands (read. tens and hundred's of thousands on ONE animal) they WANT them to be in TOP shape so they will do everything in their power to keep them healthy.