i took snoopy to the park for a run (he is an 11" tall, 19# toy american eskimo, keep that in mind). some idiot, actually my neighbor, is there with his 2 ginormous labs- off lead. theres a swimming spot hidden in the back of the park. they come bounding out of there, and at me, from 100+ yards away. i scoop up snoopy, because he's scared of the big guys. this lab charges me, muddies my whole front, and just about knocks me over. then proceeds to jump to try to get at snoopy like he's a toy. so i'm twisting and turning away, calling 'come get your dog!'. and the guy wanders over, leisurely, like its no big deal. no big deal that i am covered in mud.
so we continue on, and same thing. about 200 yards further down the path, and neither is on lead. by this point i a pissed, and way behind in my run. and he takes his sweet time getting control of them while i stand around, not wanting to run with a 20# dog in my arms, and afraid they'll chase snoop if we take off.
so again, i wait, for an idiot, who is too rude to clearly follow the POSTED LEASH LAWS in the state, and the park. so tomorrow will be 3 times in a row. i am pretty sure the thir times the charm, and he'll get an earful. its just rude. i'm not fond of the big dogs in general, but especially ones with no manners, no listening skills, no recall, who jump like 100# monsters all over, uninvited. i make sure to have control of mine at all times, so should this guy.
***Edited By: ESKIEGIRL on 9/12/2005 10:25:47 AM*** Reason: snoopy is 11", not 11', tall. ha ha
Oh, Eskie I understand. When we were living with my inlaws they have a neighbor that lives across the street from them who has a yellow lab. And they have no clue how to train the dog. He's totally out of control. They'll let him out loose in the front yard and he goes racing through everyone elses yard, pooping and jumping on anyone he sees.When he does this the owner yells at him to come and when the dog finally comes he spanks him with the newspaper. My mother-in-law who already doesn't like animals, calls him the idiot dog. I call it the idiot owner and his lovely dog who could be very good if trained properly. So sad. Hang in there!
I have had that happen to me many times in this neighborhood with pit bulls and I find if you hollar NO! in the loudest voice you can, most dogs will stop running towards you and either stop or run the other way.
If this does not happen and the dogs continue to come at you and jump on you like that, lift your knee up and push the dog very gently away with your foot and with the loud voice NO! And keep doing that until the dog finally goes away.
Hey at least the neighbor's dogs weren't coming at you to bite.
You could also try calling the local animal control officers to go monitor the people in the park and dogs in the park every now and then, it is their JOB to enforce ALL dog laws so this will help them give citations to those who do break the DOG LEASH LAWS. Other wise if you do not report him for this behavior, how will the animal control even KNOW there is a problem at all?
Don't wait to call the animal control until the dogs do bite someone or hurt someone elses dogs. Then the damage is done and its too late.
IcyHound I Agree with you in kicking them dogs, I just worded mine a little more gently LOL!
And if the owner doesnt like you kicking his dogs tell him to leash them or you will report them. And even try taking a camera out there and take some pictures to prove your case if it goes to court at any given time.Or something else ever happens you may need evidence on.
I am no stranger of taking owners of dogs to court to get them to be the responsible owners they claim to be. Especially if their dogs hurts me or mine. I have won 2 cases thus far and I'm not playing no games with anyone when it comes to this. MY dogs are the only dogs in my neighborhood that DO NOT AND HAVE NEVER RUN THE STREETS.
***Edited By: peanutmypoodle on 9/12/2005 10:58:37 AM*** Reason: *
you guys are right, they are not aggressive, just stupid as hell. one is old, and no problem, the younger one is the run and jump maniac. i will (knowing me) give the owner a slice of my mind if it happens tomorrow...i will try kneeing; keep in mind i am doing the spinny dance trying to keep my own dog out of reach of this ill-mannered beast. the spinny dance, on one leg, balancing my own dog over my head, at 630 am, wouldnt be a pretty sight.
i just keep thinking, what if i were a retireee out for a morning stroll who got knocked over by this dog? or i was scared of dogs? or scared of big dogs,? or knew nothing about dogs and panicked? or had a litle kid or stroller with me? this guy is irresponsible.
I would be very embarrassed if my dog muddied up someone.
I was walking my two Min Pins the other day and saw a dog with a couple that was much bigger and off lead taking a dump. So I went back the other way and waited until they were gone. I had to walk around the dog's pile that they left. I like bigger friendly dogs but I was afraid they did not have any control over their dog and not knowing if it would hurt mine, I went the other way.
I understand your feelings about the other dogs. I love all sizes of dogs but you want to keep your dog safe and not go home all muddy from someone else's dog. He obviously thinks it is okay if he is not apoligizing and trying to do something about it. You will have to give him a piece of your mind because he doesn't know any better.
I also feel sorry for dogs that are getting spanked and not trained. They are not humans and don't understand what we are saying unless we train them. If they can't afford training classes, they should invest in a good book and train the dogs properly themselves and not spank them when they did not know they did something wrong.
I know the spinny dance well too. It is harder now though with two little dogs to get them both up especially since mine wants to get to the dog and play and doesn't even stop to think it may not be friendly to hyper little dogs.
I'm with minpin mom...i'd be embarassed as hell if my dog went and jumped all over someone over here in the park. We don't have any leash laws here in Germany...most of us have our dogs on leashes in the presence of other dogs but once everyone is out of sight the leashes come off.
Most of the "regulars" over in the forest where we go know each other and so do the dogs. However, if I were in Eskie's shoes...i'd be doing some "talking" to the idiot that does not seem to give a rat's butt that his dogs are all over someone else or not.
As far as the comment about "at least they aren't coming at you to bite" screw that, dogs shouldn't be galloping at strangers like that in the first place.
i have one that is dog aggressive. so she barely leaves the house...its safer for her, and easier on me. i *thought* 6am at the park would be safe to take her, the other day, but not with this idiot running loose. they wear haresses so i can stoop and grab. but 40# of dog, one under each arm, is tiring for any length of time. and if she is going crazy, i often need both arms for her. so i am spinny dancing and running away for snoopy's sake! and snoopy is a fraidy dog and wants to bark everyone and other dogs, birds, cars, etc to death. at least with him alone i can scoop-n-grab adn keep him out of harms way.
see..i have a dog with a bad attitude. she stays home. no different that ill-mannered, or not listening. and they are NEVER off lead, except in the yard. ever!
See, you are smart and considerate of other people and keep the aggressive dog at home when you think there will be a problem.
I have a 10 pounder and a 6 pounder and they can be hard to control if they want down real bad which is when another dog is around. People should be able to control their dogs and keep them from approaching when it is not appropriate. Those dogs will end up hurting an elderly person or young child if they keep jumping up like that.
You will be doing the guy a favor by letting him know about the leash law and that he is responsible for any harm his pets do to anyone or any property. If he does not heed your advice, I would talk to the appropriate authorities about it because there are leash laws for a reason.
That happened to us, only it was a big dog running at and jumping on my children at a children's park where it was clearly posted that NO DOGS were to be in the play area and dogs in the park were to be on leashes. This guy wouldn't recall his dog, so I called the police for him so they could "help". They "assisted" him in getting him to recall his dog and then read him the finer points of the leash law. The officer asked me if a warning would suffice and I agreed to that, as long as it didn't happen again. Been to the park several times and that dog is always on a leash! Something about some guy in a uniform telling you your responsibilities I guess...because it works.
I absolutely understand! my pup, Todd, is a 17 week old flat coated retriever who has a fantastic recall (unlike most of the adult dogs that we encounter at the park!). We were in the local park just sitting waiting for a friend and her goldie to come along and this great big chocolate lab comes bounding out of nowhere! He was off lead and the two girls who had control over him (yeah, right!) As much as this dog was friendly and Todd loves to play, Todd was on the lead so Todd didn't like it as much.The girls were calling the dog 'Rolo' back but to no avail Rolo just ignored them until eventually they came strolling over and said ' The dog doesn't like you sniffing his bottom Rolo, let's go!' It was so rude! The same day we had a german shepherd who looked about 5 months old with owners who were elderly. He came over slowly, ears up tail wagging slowly, and the old man proceeded to call him over urgently and put his lead on for the lady to say, 'he's only a puppy!' The third incident on the same day(!)a border terrier came up to him and were sniffing gently, then the little terrier decided to have a go at Todd! This time the owner came over a little more urgently, saying 'I think its about time you got neutered!' to her dog. I really can't believe the ignorance of some owners! My trainer has said to her clients(who have fear aggressive dogs or a frightened pup - which are kept on lead and really hate it when out of control dogs come up to their dogs) to take a compact umbrella with them and if the body blocking and shouting at the other dog doesn't work, then to pop open the umbrella in the dogs's face. However, this is extreme, but it's a good tip for those of you that hate other dogs coming up to your fear-aggresive dog or scared little pup and getting it started. I have also heard that throwing a poo bag (with poo) at the other dog works, but I haven't tried this myself... yet.... :D
Eskie did that guy even apologize?! What a jerk! I would be sooo mad, especially if I got mud all over me. But I do agree with the others, lift your knee. The dog will jump into it and not jump on you again.
acey- no, he didnt apologize. and when he finally had them under control, me and snoopy ran by and i ignored him, as i was trying ot get snoopy the barking maniac under control.... but no, he didnt say anything to me. and i'd have been really pissed if i was dressed nice. as it was, i was dressed as a stumblebum out for a morning run. thats what happens when you dress in the dark. ha ha. i will for sure say something to him tomorrow.
what he doesnt know, is that we live across the street from each other. we can see their back yard, but they cant see ours. which i why i know it's him, but he doesnt know who i am.
No a dog should not be bred to make the breed more popular, infact the rarer breeds are better off in my opyion as they are less common puppyfarms and BYBs dont breed them and mess the breed up. You should breed to improve and presurve the breed. http://www.420tube.tv/uprofile.php?UID=2723
you could also try calling the local animal control officers to go monitor the people in the park and dogs in the park every now and then, it is their JOB to enforce ALL dog laws so this will help them give citations to those who do break the DOG LEASH LAWS.