Hey Red thanks... Yes i am talking about ceasar milan. I recently became a trainer. I love ceasar and his dog psychology. I learned things a bit differently at school You seemed to have alot of very good advice on training. I wont take on a client and their dog unless I am 100 %positive i can help, i'd rather not have a client then have one i cant help. I'm very very new to training. thanks Jenn
I absolutly love him. I try and tape his show every chance i get. He really does have amazing results. I have an agressive dog, and it's been a problem. Im lucky he's 14 and not younger. I tried working with his food agression today based on things i've seen ceaser do. My school offered very little in regards to agressive behavior. I'm still very new to training and it's takes alot of time and patients. do you have any suggestion on good books?
Well I rescued him from a shelter when he was ten. so lord knows what happen to him or where he came from. But in 4 yrs i've made little progress. probably cause i ignored it (big mistake).
well if i put down food in his dish he runs, tail between legs and eats furiously. if i or a cat or my other dog goes near him he gets, stiff, head comes up, he starts licking, head tilted side ways growls then shows teeth.
so i've been going over to him when he is eating and stand as close as possible and very gently nudge him away. sometimes he gives up and walks away and sometime he just continues to eat . He doesnt play with toys, but if i give him a raw hide he has to be in a seperate room. he guards, and growls and will snap if anyone goes near it.
and the post man is anothe story!!!
when i first got him if anystranger came to the door he tried to bit them. if you got in with out him seeing you were fine, but dont turn for the door, he'd run and charge you and try to bite. He;s gotten alot better with that. I constantly had people coming and going and tried to nip that in the bud. He also tried to bit my cats if they walk past him. I feel how can i become a good trainer when i have this going on in my house. I try never to get overly excited and always keep a calm and assertive. but the bitting is scary.
You should read The dog listener by Jan Fennell. She based her book and work on the work of the horse listener Monty Roberts. I bought a harpers and Colins addition. A real eye opener on how to deal with all aspects of dog behavior as an alpha pack leader. Really made sense to me. It also seems to work. The writer had a dogput down due to biting, only to learn twenty years later it was all her fault. Well worth researching!!
Why do you think that dog might feel such a need to guard his food? Think about it.
He must have had to defend his food in order to keep it, or he got it so infrequently at a critical time in his life, he learned to guard it viciously and eat it as fast as possible, because there might not be any more.
Now, when you stand over this dog as he is eating, and nudge him away from his precious survival resource, his food, that is is already so terribly worried about, how do you think this makes him feel?
What must be feel when he's been pressed so hard over his precious meal, the highlight of his day, that he will walk away from it and give up the fight?
Here is how I handle dogs who are food aggressive:
1) put away the bowl. The dog will eat from your hand, and your hand only, for at least 7 days. With this dog, I would likely go 10 days with hand feeding only. Now what position are you in? You are not threatening the food. Oh no. You are PROVIDING the food. Every single bite. As fast as you can or as fast as he will eat it.
2) After 10 days of the hand feeding only, put the bowl on the floor, and for 10 meals, put the food into the bowl handful by handful and let him eat it. Let him finish each handful and look up to you before you put another one in, but put it in the bowl just as SOON as he looks at you. As soon as he is done with his meal, put into his bowl, one at a time, 3 or 4 special treats, such as pieces of cheese, boiled chicken, something special. Immediatly when the dog is finished pick up the bowl and put it away. One more reward once that is done. Do you see where we are going here? ;)
After 10 meals of you putting the food in handful by handful, feed the dog normally, putting his bowl on the floor. As he is eating, walk by the bowl several times and drop in some sort of REALLY tasty treat. This needs to be awesomely special. Cooked liver, steak, seasoned or grilled chicken, etc. If it is possible for you to ask for his attention to feed him the treat, so much the better, but if he does not wish to stop eating, that's fine, just drop it in the bowl. Again, as soon as he is finished, pick up the bowl, put it away, and feed another treat.
Once you get to this point, you might think about getting a nice crate for this dog to eat in. Drape 3 sides of it with a blanket or sheet so he feels he has some privacy, and leave him to eat in peace.
I knew if i sent him back to the shelter he would get put down. Thats what happen to a larg percentage of agressive dogs. well this guy came this way and i will admit i did nothing to correct the behavor. Now that know about training, this should've been the first thing i did. And also by not doing anything I guess I allowed it or told him it was okay to react this way. thanks for the advice!!! i'll check out that book. :0)
Thank you very much!! It makes sense. He does food guard. Maybe from being in a shelter. I actually fed my other golden when he was a puppy from my hands then always made sure i was able to handle his food when he was eating!! he's amazing when it comes to that. thanks again i'll start tomorrow when he's good and hungry!! :0)
thanks a million. It makes sense. He does food gurad. Maybe from being in a shelter. I trained my other golden that way when he was a puppy. i started out feeding from my hand only then made sure i could handle his food while he was eating. now he's amazing when it comes to that. thanks again i'll start with my other dog tomorrow when he's good and hungry :0)
I love to watch Dog Whisper. I just wish they'd stop showing reruns, but I still watch them over and over again. I've learned alot from him. I wish I could go to were he keep his dogs. I'd love to visit with all of them. He lives about 30 miles from my house.
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Thanks a million. It makes sense. He food guards. Maybe from being in a shelter. I acutally trained my other golden like that as a puppy. I hand fed him for a while then made sure i could handle his food while he was eating. He's great with that now. I'll start tomorrow with the other dog. when he's hungry.. thanks again :0)
Well its not from being in a shelter. Dogs aren't housed together usually, so he wouldn't guard it from other dogs. Guarding his food is a normal behavior. In the wild he would have to guard it from others to survive. Food aggression can be dealt with when dogs are puppies.Teaching them that people and their food bowl can be good associations, not bad ones. So the original owners obviously didn't teach him. For now keep him away from distractions when hes got something, do your best to never put him in the position that he feels the need to guard his belongings and his food. Start hand feeding him, make him work for his food.If your a trainer, you know how to do that. If he had a toy, and you offered a hotdog, would he drop the toy for the hotdog? If so start giveing him a toy and then offereing the hotdog("Take it"), when he drops the toy and just as hes takeing the hotdog, take the toy, then when hes done the hotdog offer back the toy("Take it"). This exercise needs to be done daily to teach him that he will always get things back. Never take anything away from him, without offering something in return.