I have heard from several people now that Ivamectin which is a cattle wormer you can get from local feed stores works for dog heartworms. I was told it works for prevention and treatment. You can get about 2 years worth for $40 (if you have several medium sized dogs). Anybody else heard this or use it?
We have collies so they can take anything with Ivermectin because it can attack their nervous system. We use Interceptor which does the same thing. In fact, if you have a dog that tests low to medium positive for heartworm Interceptor can kill them
Yes, I use Iver. on my dogs. Certain breeds can't have it like the other poster said. You have to mix it with propylene glycol. The mix I use is 7cc of iver + 43cc's of propline. After it's mixed 1cc for every 10lbs. This is what I use but I'm NOT a vet so ask them before you do this to be sure it's ok and this mixture would work for you too.
Ivermectin is the main ingredient in heartgard. You can add it in the dog's water (1/2 cc for 50 lbs). You can ask your vet for advice but they will tell not to use ivermectin because it is an off label use.
Here is the mix and dosage that I use for ivermectin. This mix is based on my vets advice and I have had it approved by another vet also.Take one 50 ml bottle of 1% ivermectin injectable and mix it with 450 ml of propylene glycol. Mix VERY well. Pour into dark medicine bottles and label with the expiration date of the ivermectin. Store in cool, dark cupboard. Do not refridgerate. Shake very well with each use. If you are dosing several dogs, re-cap and shake every 3 or so dogs. Dosage as follows: up to 25 lbs - .10 ml----- 26lbs to 50 lbs -.20 ml----- 51 lbs to 100 lbs - .30ml----- over 100 lbs- .40 ml Cats: up to 5 lbs. .10 ml---- 6 lbs to 15 lbs - .20 ml---- over 15 lbs - .30 ml. These measurements are in tenths. .10 being 1/10 th of a ml/cc. Give orally. Yes cats get heartworms too and yes, their dosage is much more per pound than a dogs. 1% Ivermectin contains 10 mg. ivermectin per 1 ml UNDILUTED. When diluted as instructed, it contains 1 mg ivermectin per 1 ml. ml = milliliter, 1 ml and 1 cc are the same measurements. There are 1000 micrograms (mcg) in 1 milligram (mg). On the Heartguard box the dosages are in micrograms but with the above info you can easily do the math and see that this mix is excellent. Give once monthly.
***Edited By: luvmydoxys on 11/10/2005 6:04:26 PM*** Reason: Somebody asked a good question that I should have had included.
Honey Mom - This needs to be given once a month. Glad I could help. I have pretty good knowledge of commonly used medicines in the dog world. Have many books on it, very good relationship with my vets, use to be a vet assistant. I have compiled a data base stored on my computer containing uses, dosages, and cautions. All of it thoroughly researched. Limited to COMMONLY USED drugs. Be glad to help any one with any info. A rule of thumb though...if the problem at hand is not serious, I attempt to handle it myself. If it is or may be serious, I call my vet. If I have no clue, I call my vet.
This is what the breeder gave Sam, when I brought him to my vet and he saw what she'd given him he said yes it does work for all worms, but that it can be dangerous and that he's seen a few dogs brought in, mostly greyhounds that have been in comas because of it. Kinda freaked me out.
Yes, it can be dangerous. But the reason that is so is because most people give their dogs far too much. People do not realize how very little of an amount it takes for heartworm prevention. That is why is needs to be diluted. Unless you have an extremely large dog, giving the correct amount is IMPOSSIBLE unless it is diluted. In the formula I explain above it is diluted 9 times. 9 times!!! Yet after the dilution it still only takes .10ml to dose a dog up to 25 pounds. Just 1 tenth of a milliliter. So if it WASN'T diluted just imagine how small of an amount on that syringe you would have to try and get for that size dog. It can't be done. There are other dilution formulas. It all depends on the size of dogs you have. The smaller the dog, the more dilution needed. The larger the dog, the less dilution needed. But of course the dosage would then be different also. The absolute maximum dosage that a dog can have safely of pure ivermectin, UNDILUTED, is the same dosage on the bottle for cattle. That is 1ml per 110 pounds. Now go ahead and try and break that down. And that amount is way more than even NEEDED to prevent heartworms. I have spoke to many people that give their dogs way too much, never anybody that was giving too little. Most people say they just give the dogs a drop or two (these are people with doxies, like myself). I would never dose my dogs like that. Would you take a guess at the amount of a potentially dangerous medicine for your child? Of course not. Most vets just find it safer to leave the heartworm prevention to them. Probably not too crazy about the idea of a client calling with a dead/ill dog screaming "You told me it was safe!!!" when they didn't follow the EXACT dosing recommendations. I use a 1 cc syringe also known as a TB syringe. Best size to get those exact small quantities.
Oh, I forgot to mention that while yes ivermectin kills several intestinal worms, it requires a different dose. It requires a higher dose than what is needed to prevent heartworms. So anybody using this formula, do not be mistakenly thinking you are taking care of intestinal worms in your dog also. I myself do not use it for intestinal worms. Panacur is a great wormer for that and is available in an affordable generic brand. Pyrantel Pamoate ( Nemex, Strongid ) is even cheaper and very easy to find. Though it only takes care of roundworms and hookworms.
***Edited By: luvmydoxys on 11/11/2005 12:49:07 AM*** Reason: Mis-spelling
I took a copy of your formula with me today to our vets and he approved of the mix and said your dosages were right on the mark. I am now going to start making my own mix, as my husband has 8 hunting dogs and this will surely help reduce costs. My vet is all for it and stands behind me. He even ordered the propylene glycol for me as I did not know what is was. Thanks!!!