I know that the typical "i'm looking for teacup" inquiry comes with raising a toy breed of any type. But tonight i've decided i'm sick of it.
I know there are plenty of people that mean no harm when asking about teacups, they are simply ignorant to all the facts. But when given a simple factual explaination of there non-exsistance as a designated size, their health problems, and the irresponible kind of breeder that brings them into the world, often people get snippy about it.
The snippy people are the reason i have it clearly stated on my website that i will not even respond to people that ask for teacups. Unfortunately i was stupid and broke my own rule today because the inquiry i received was directly from an ad i have posted for an upcoming unborn litter so i thought they had most likely not seen my statement on my website. She wanted to know "Is the puppy a teacup or toy sized?"
I explained to the lady that there is no such thing, poms bred to the standard wiegh between 3-7 pounds, and i do not sell to people that ask for teacups. Now shes pissed.
Whats funny is i don't have any puppies to begin with, the ad was for an unborn litter, but shes freaking out because i stated i do not sell to people that ask for teacups because they are asking for an irresponibly bred generally unhealthy puppy and i do not have any of the kind.
I'm sticking to my rule and just not responding to those inquiries ever again!! Thank you for letting me share my frustration :)
I appreciate your frustration. I know I've posted the same thing before, but I'll repeat it...
IT DOES NO GOOD TO SAY TEACUPS DO NOT EXIST!
Before anybody goes off on me, I understand that AKC has no "teacup" designation. I know that it is not official. I know that "teacup" is likely to mean an undersized, unhealthy animal.
BUT --- just because the term is not "official" does not mean the word has no meaning. These people know what they are asking for. YOU know what they are asking for. By you saying that it "doesn't exist" probably sounds to them like you are saying the world is flat.
I think it is fine for you to maintain your policy of never responding to someone asking for "teacup" whatever -- that's a pretty simple filter. But if you ever grow weak and respond to a request in the future, don't bother to quibble about the term "teacup." Instead, use the word UNDERSIZED. For example,
"Thank you for your query about UNDERSIZED pugs. I do not breed or sell UNDERSIZED pugs, because I have found that they are generally unhealthy."
Well, you get the idea. (I hope)
***Edited By: NoDogYet on 10/31/2006 11:38:41 PM*** Reason: fix
With them asking for teacup you know they want a smaller than standard. So if you dont bred for smaller than standard you are doing the correct thing by not responding to thier request. Some people may genuinely not know the correct term and need to be educated about the health issues and breed standards..but then again some people know and just want a tiny dog when they should get a hamster instead.
Yes, the word teacup is not "correct"...and I don't believe for a second in breeding tiny dogs on purpose, and I would not want to own one for fear of their small size.. But, if it holds "no" value...Why do we all know what teacup means. ?
Hip hip hurray!!! I know exactly where you are coming from. I breed toy pooldes and most of the inquaries I get are from people who want a "tea-cup" poodle. If they only knew what they were asking for I don't think they would be so inclined to ask that. Do they really want a dog that in a year will start having all sorts of health problems? The people at the akc I talked with told me that in a year their tiny organs start to wear out from every day life. Can you imanage how far it is from one room to the other for it's tiny body. She also told me that soon the AKC would recomend putting these puppies down at birth. I know of a lady who breeds these tiny pups and sells the offspring for 2 to 3 thousand dollars each!! I know whoever buys these babies had better have a thick billfold to cover all of the upcoming medical expenses. I would never breed a dog that weighs under 3 lbs but that is all she has and she breds them. I personally think the AKC shouldn't register her puppies and then MAYBE she wouls stop this. I met her once and say her "teacup" dogs. I thought they looked very unhealthy. What do you think of a breeder who does this? I know I would never buy one of her puppies or recomend anyone to do so.
Good input, i have never thought to say undersized. Maybe that would make it sound less apealing to the public.
The lady i mentioned is no longer harassing me with e-mailings complaining that i will not sell to her. She really took it to far, i was rather surprized at her explosion.
You'd think that word would get around as the health of tiny babies deteriorates as they get older and often isn't that good even in the beginning of life.
I haven't heard about the AKC saying anything about them. I doubt they would since every baby registered is more money for them. I doubt the breeders that breed them would be willing to put down their babies at birth either and there is no law that could force them to do so.
I'm just gonna stick to my guns and educate those willing to be educated and ignore those who are not.
It has been my experience over 25+ years of breeding Poms that the average purchaser doesn't really have a clue what they want.
"I want the tiniest one you have" (This person is invariably shocked at the sight of a 10 wk old baby who will mature to 4 lbs "I didn't think it would be that small" " I'll have to think about it I don't know if a 7 lb dog will fit in the water truck we drive" ( Tonka...?)
"I want a Red One" (Don't know red from purple with pink polkadots but they have to have a red one)
"I want the biggest one"
"I want the meanest one" (I am lumping the last two together because they frequently come in the same package and they are the reason my last baby Chow is 15 years old and maiden. One particular goof comes to mind who came out to look at the 120 lb Pyr/GSD/mystery dog I found dropped on the highway. Decided she was too much for him after he crowded her and she bit him in the face. This was to spite several warnings.)
Before someone jumps on me that was 8 years ago and she is still here. I couldn't put her anywhere where she might hurt someone.
A friend of mine who worked years in the public sector maintained 65% of the public are in fact brain dead. Dealing with them is just part of the job description, and is in all probability why the average lifespan of a breeding career is 5 years. I know it is why I breed VERY few dogs any more.
I think this is an area where people certainly need to be educated. I actually had a conversation with a lady the other day...
She said that she was looking for a teacup pom.
I asked her why? What about a dog that small appealed to her?
Her response was that she really enjoys puppy's, she loves when they're tiny and frisky and cute. But as they get older - they're not as "babyish" or as cute. I suspect that this is the underlying reason for the "teacup" craze... because who doesn't love a baby?
So I asked her... does the little 89 year old lady who is 4'3 still look like a kid to you? Is SHE tiny and frisky and cute? What are the benefits of her being tiny?
Then I asked her to think about this... A dog that tiny can hurt itself so easily... jumping off of the couch, being accidentally stepped on, getting stuck under furniture... and yet, they do age. And they get achy and sore just like any other dog does as it ages.. and it still needs to be carried around "like a baby"... how sore must its little body get when it's bones are sore, it's muscles are sore and it's tired of being handled - and yet, because it's heart and lungs are so tired - it must be carried around?
I just talked to her about how dogs that tiny still get old... it's a fact of life. You can have a small dog that will enjoy being held and carried and loved... and if you feed it good food and keep it healthy - he will stay frisky and playful for many years... but that tinier doesn't = better.
Hmmm lovebug has a new litter coming :-) I am thinking I need to have a convo with the hubby lol
I see nothing wrong with what you said Lovebug, my breeder had a similiar response when I asked (while I was waiting for my babies)..."why do people advertise teacups and what does that mean?". People will get offended for numerous reasons, so if they cannot be adult about it and ask you, "well why do you say that? what is the difference?" vs getting snippy, then they do not deserve on of your precious babies :-)
Yep been there done that..... Ya preach and preach and nobody listens... until something happens usually not pretty... then oh I guess you were right... DUH
Thats when I get upset and say don't come crying to me now ya dumb so and so...
I am so mad right now at a breeder right now... Oh I love my babies so much, they are my kids... She doesn';t have a clue about breeding dogs... She has a fit if a puppy comes out breech, she thinks she needs to get her finger in there and help everytime a pup comes out breech.. I found out she let her full size toy poodle breed a less than 2 lb female, then when she had trouble they let her struggle overnight and into the next day before taking her to the vet... Grrrr A different Vet. than her normal quack and he fixed her after C-section... wtg Doc!! She is unscupulous, money hungry idiot.. She says they sell healthy babies... Their idea of healthy is breathing and eating and pooping...
She has an ad in the paper as we speak... I am tempted to have one placed under hers asking poodle puppy buyers beware and call this # first before purchasing...