I was just curious after stumbling across an artical, If a female dog came from a litter of 13(which is unusual for the breed) will she too produce big litters, or is it just luck! It was an artical about a Olde English Bulldogge...and she had a litter of 13, just curious if her offspring would also have big litters.....I just can't see this being healthy, I have standard EB's and a litter that size is just unheard of...
I think that it is good indicator as to how many puppies will be in a litter. My original Boxer bitch never had a litter under 10 and her first was 13, which is also a large litter for a boxer.
Of the girls I kept from her, none of her daughters have had a litter smaller than 10 (normally 10-11). Her first grand daughter just had a litter of 10.
Big litters do not necessarily mean unhealthy. They do mean more work for the person if you want them all to live. I don't think big litters are a bad thing. In fact I rather have a healthy bitch that throws large litters of smaller puppies naturally than a bitch that may have 1-4 LARGE puppies in a litter and MUST have a c-section to get them out.
To me, the litter that is smaller and must be c-sectioned is not really the way nature intended things.
If a bitch can take care of them all, I suppose there's no problems with it, but I wouldn't breed this bitch very much.If she can't handle the load, you would have to suppliment the pups or find a willing wet nurse. This might be genetic, or a fluke..... I used to breed Dalmatians and each litter was a pup or two more, by the time she was up to 12 pups, that was her last litter....
***Edited By: schoolbus gal on 1/17/2007 3:06:19 PM*** Reason: sp
The average litter size for Olde English Bulldogges are about 8. My female had a litter of 9 pups and she came from a litter of 8. I don't think just because the mother has 13 pups their female pups would have that many, probally just luck--- if you call it luck.lol
Well, not really Luck! It just came out that way. I just was shocked when i read this, but i guess its not all too uncommon. Is there that big of differece in an OEB and a standard EB? That they have litters that big.. How does the bitch handle that many pups, and futhermore how about us two legged mommas that have to help out sometimes,,, that is ALOT of mouths to feed.
Oh yea there is a pretty big difference between OEB and AKC English Bulldog. I would love to chat with you about it if you want. I am a bulldogge freak!lol If you want to email me my email is email@example.com. My female free whelped 9 pups, unfortunately 3 died at birth, but she took care of 6 just fine (I think that is a perfect litter size:) Sometimes the bigger litters you have to rotate pups on mom, kinda have feeding shifts. And as far as being easy on the 2 legged mom,,, I think 6 is a lot of work I can't imagine 13!! OEB's are a re-creation of the bulldog from the 1800's. Breeders started re-creating them around 1970. OEB's are healthier than the EB, NO C-SECTIONS!, no AI, males breed naturally, they are free-breathers, and they are more active & make great working/herding dogs too. OEB's are built taller than the EB & and their bodies are longer, and they have a longer nose too - shouldn't be too long though. Most OEB foundations are American Bulldog, Mastiff, English Bulldog, some lines have Pit in them, & Am. Staf. too. My dogs are multi-generational but came from foundations of English bulldog, Mastiff, American Bulldog, and Neapolitan Mastiff. Combining all those great bull breeds make one great bull breed in my opinion. I show my OEB's in conf. and I am just starting my male out in weight pulling too.
Ok - anyhow, ,, sorry to carry on, you want to talk more, just email me, I'll be glad to talk dogs with you:)
***Edited By: bullzeye on 1/17/2007 6:49:44 PM*** Reason: more info