Huron - even I got that one "L"ivestock "G"uardian "D"og
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I am the almighty ShadowDog!!!! Lol, nice to meet you. I'm 13, and a dog-a-holic. I love horses too, and riding. Right now I just have one doggie, my Shadow!

http://dogster.com/pet_page.php?j=t&i=32912

Welcome, you have very beautiful puppies. I love horses and rode a lot when I was a teen. But when I went to a hotel that horseback riding a while back, I thought It would be like getting on a bike again, Boy was I wrong!!

I don't think I've ever felt so sore in my life. I found muscels that I never knew that I had.;) OOOOWWW

JFYI, I was quite a few years older then when I was a teen.

***Edited By: Skittles on 5/26/2005 7:27:20 PM***
Reason: spelling

Huron

I'm on a GSD board also, but the rest are mainly horse boards. I don't go on the GSD one much, it's one of those hard to get into boards. It takes awhile. I have been looking for a board for the LGD's but I haven't found one yet.

We raise beef cattle. Right now Angus crosses but starting next year we are switching to a new beef breed that they are developing. The meat is as good if not better then Angus and they are much easier to handle. I do have names for all of the cattle and can raddle off pedigrees for them. Some are 4th generation stock. Eating them doesn't bug me and I have helped in every stage of it from helping cows birth to the slaughter. I like the birthing better of course. I grew up with this so it isn't that big of a thing for me but one thing that has help is how badly I have been treated by cattle. Nothing like getting home at midnight from a trip and having to chase cattle through a swamp or riding the head of a mad mamma cow up the manure pile or having that same cow slam you into panels. They aren't really pets. Well Minnie and Sammy Da Bull are but neither one would end up on my plate so it isn't that bad to make them pets. The only time that raising our own meat was a problem for me was when I was around 6 I had a pet pig. Because she grew up in the house she thought she was a human and killed a number of other pigs. So she got sold. The guy that bought her came into the shop one day when I was there and said how good she tasted. That was the only animal that it really bugged me about.


The LGDs is part of a study. 5 yr years ago we had two foals born. Shortly after the second one was born(less then 24 hr old) we had a wolf come in an attack one of the mares and foals. The foal was hurt in the attack when she fell but I got to them and scared it off before it got to Destiny. A month later due to that injury she shattered most of the small bones in the knee on her other leg. I choose to have her put down because of how bad it was. Since then we have had a lot of problems with the wolves. CMU got our name from the DNR and contacted us about the study. It is on the use of LGDs and cattle to help with the wolf problem. It isn't the only study they are wroking on. They have one with shock collars, flags and a few others I don't have the details on. For this one they have 12 farms in the U.P of Michigan, 6 with dogs and 6 contral farms without. We choose to take the dogs. 5 yrs age I had looked into it but with $500+ a pup and no one around that has LGD to help me, I didn't chance it. The only real choices we have for the problem is LGD or actually trained wolf hunting dogs which I didn't want. We raise the pups with two calves and wean them out into the herd. The idea is that they stay with the herd and if a wolf comes around they bark, carry on and get the cattle up to the house and let a us know. I have been told that they won't normally attack unless the threat keeps going after the herd. We have the dogs for 2 years and then have the choice of keeping them or giving them back to CMU who will place them on another farm. For the 2 years CMU pays for everything for the pups and even gave us the two calves.

Here is some more photos of them

This is shortly after we got them when we moved them into one of the pup pens. The weather was still too cold to put them in their own pen only so they had heat lamps on one pen with the two of them together.
Jack
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Pups/Jack313.jpg

Polar
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Pups/polar313.jpg

This one is both of them together looking towards the one calf pen
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Pups/both313.jpg

The pens are set up so that there is a Puppy Pen, Calf pen, Puppy Pen, Calf Pen. Each puppy has their own calf and can go in with it or be in their pen away from the calf. They spend most of the time with the calf, Polar likes to sleep on top of hers.

Polar's Calf Thatcher You can see the boards into her pen on the left. At that time they where not allowed in with the calves free choice so the boards are up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Pups/Thatcher4.jpg

Jack's Calf Twister
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Pups/Twister4.jpg


The next ones are from 4/13

We set up one of our corrals for just the pups and calves so they can spend sometime outside and as a way to get them use to ele. fences.

Jack
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Pups/jack2412.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Pups/jack412.jpg

Polar
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Pups/polar3412.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Pups/polar2412.jpg

Polar and Thatcher you can see that one boards is now off. They are so big now I have two off and soon will have to move them to bigger pens.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Pups/polarthatcher412.jpg

Jack and Twister
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Pups/jacktwister412.jpg

This is intersting to say the least. It's a ton of extra work and the worst part is that we cannot bond with the pups. They get the least amount of human contact to get them use to normal care, and we get them use to different people and dogs but no playing, babying or anything that would make them want to leave the herd and come to humans unless called.

I love seeing all of the photos. I like how Dogster is site up with all of the info.



Skittles

It is like riding a bike, your mind doesn't forget how but your body forgot what a beating it can be! I have ridden my whole life so I never really get out of it.


I don't have many photos of the horses on photobucket. I have more on my recipe website. But here is Jasmine. She is one of the foals from the year the wolf problem started.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Jazzerfoal3.jpg

and her as a 2 yr old

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Jazzer_2.jpg

She is 5 this year and is 38 days bred. I can't believe my baby is old enough to have a baby!

This is one of my other mares Coal

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Coal/Coalpl.jpg

We do Calvary stuff for the 4th
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Coal/Coal_Side_II.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/stormieqh/Coal/Coalggg.jpg

I don't have a photo of Star on Photobucket but here is one that should work(so many hits an hour)
http://www.geocities.com/stormieqh/Star.jpg

I have had Star since I was 12 so I'm one of her kids and about the only adult that she puts up with. She loves kids no matter what they are, humans, horses, cows, pigs. If it's a baby she loves it.

I don't know if I can post a link to my website or not, some boards are touchy about it.

It's okay to link to a personal website but not if you are selling anything there. If you have dogs or horses for sale on the site, it's a no-no. Otherwise, post it up! :-)

Oh yeah, and WELCOME!

***Edited By: shinyblackpit on 5/27/2005 12:26:51 AM***
Reason: asdf

hey storm,

beautiful animals. Your GSD and horses are really lovely and those puppies are so darn cute!!

Do you use your horses for herding?

here is a link to a page where you can join a lgd discussion list. it is an email list though not a discussion form but the people on there are great and more so then not use their dogs as working dogs not companions. it is a list thru applease called the lgd-l but this link has another link on how you can join the lgd only list.

http://www.anatoliandog.org/lists.htm#LGD-L

I'm not selling anything on the site but if I ever get a chance to update it I want to link to the farm site where I do have stuff for sale. It's just a website with recipes for horse things like treats, shampoo, show sheen, etc. I have a section for dogs and cats but I haven't had time to get it up and running yet.


Scout

Thanks for the link I'll check it out.


Emma

No I don't do herding or cutting. Mostly trail riding and open shows but with this new baby I'm hoping to get into reining.

Wow all of your pets are just beautiful! Welcome to the forum! I grew up on a ranch in Cheyenne, WY and seeing your pics made me miss my childhood. My husband and I owned three horses up until a few months ago. We bought a new house and the land hasn't been cleared out yet for pastures so we had to either sell the horses or board them for several months. So we ended up selling them to our neighbors at the old house who own a 30 acre farm. I miss them so much!

stormie....I GREATlY enjoyed the most informative post....I never knew that kind of thing went on...I knew about wolf problems but this study is fantastic. Im so glad that you came on and added a practical side to livestock and animals in general..I loved the pics...I have germans shepheds and have one that looks simular to yours...Thre hardest part of having those cute furballs...whould be not playing with them and making them pets..But I understand the concept...Well...i hope that you settle in and enjoy this board and keep the information and pics coming...Thanks so much...take care

I thought that it would be really hard not to play with them but really it isn't all that hard. They just want to play with each other and the calves more then me.

Welcome, I sent pup pal requests to everyone who posted their dogster page in this thread. Cookie and I look forward to being pals.

well i av only joined today