How about this for a discussion. I was talking to a friend of mine who owned a purebred english bulldog. The dog died last week of old age - it was going on 11 yrs old. I told him I was sorry to hear about his loss, and asked if he was planning on getting another dog. He said yes - and that he also wants to get another english bulldog, brindle, which would probably wind up looking exactly like the dog that just passed. Anyway - he wants to get a female (and then after some time) stud the dog. He claims that 4 english bulldog puppies can net him $10,000 - as he expects to make $2,500 on each puppy. Here are the facts: ~He's not a breeder, and has no reputation for turning out experienced dogs. ~He does not show his or anyone else's dog. ~He plans to sell the dogs either over the internet or through the Philadelphia Inquirer and other local papers. So - in your opinion - can he actually get close to $10,000 for 4 puppies, or is he just a .....? I think you already know which direction I'm leading. :) -- Lou
Go to the dogs for sale board and look at all the bulldogs. There are alot of them and none of them are going for that price. Also he needs to be made aware that most bulldogs have to have c-sections and that can be very costly. I really don't think he would even come close to making that kind of money. Brindle is a wanted color in the breed but most people want them to be very flashy. (lots of white). Sounds like to me he is just looking for a quick way to make money and breeding dogs isnt it. Charlene
I don't think he can get that much for 4 generic bulldog puppies. I mean, he might be able to if he actually showed the parents to their Ch, did health testing on them, etc. But from just the information you give, I'd definitely say 'No.' Brindle bulldogs aren't all that uncommon (it takes at least 1 brindled parent to produce a brindled puppy, as it's a dominant trait). In the south, people prefer english bulldogs that aren't brindled, so they look more like Uga, the university of Georgia bulldog heh.
I definitely understand that breeding dogs isn't the way to Utopia, but I think he fails to see that point. Also: While I know EBs are on the higher end of doggie prices... I think he's setting his own standards too high. Then again, place an ad in the paper, and you never know who'll reply to it. Remember this old maxim? "There's always someone smarter than you..." Well, never forget it's corollary: "For every moron, there is an even stupider moron." -- Lou
my sons scout leader has an english bulldog that she paid 1200.00 for and i thought that was alot. if you times that by 4 thats 4800.00. take at least 900.00 away from that for the c-section it will need to deliver the puppies. the 400.00 for a whelpping box, 50.00 for advertising the litter in a newspaper, say roughly 150.00 for their first vet visit and first shots, 100.00 for milk replacer if he has to bottle feed, all the little things like extra food for the mother, puppy food to start weaning them, thermometers, scale to weigh them, extra money for the heat in the room to keep them warm, or electricity if he uses a heat lamp, cost of doing all the laundry, the list goes on ................. i'll bet he might make about 500.00 by the time he is done if he does it right. thats if he has 4 puppies. he could wind up having only two puppies in which case he'd lose money. breeders very rarely make money. plus he needs to hang on to the money he gets from the sale of the pups in case a year from now they come down with a health problem and he has to refund some of the selling price. talk your friend out of it. doesn't sound like he is going to breed ethically. and what a breed to pick for first time breeding!!!!!! does he not know all the difficulties that bulldogs can have?????
Yeah, no offense, but that is a steep price for someone who isn't familiar with breeding. I still think people should spend a ton of time raising and showing the breed (or doing something with them) hefore they breed them. It's too easy to make mistakes and I just can't see why do riskyou are'nt extremely passionate about your breed and are really trying to better the breed all-around.
No he won't make that kind of money. Its true that fad and rare breeds not breed from anything being BYB with serious problems can feach a price of that much. However this wouldn't apply to this situation. He has the same mind set as other people who end up failing miserably at making money, some get smart and quick, some sell cheaper, some breed/sell without ANY minimal care like in a puppy mill. One of these such peoples made the most funniest comment I've heard in awhile, saying as soon as his female comes in heat he is going to breed and sell all the pups they go for NO LESS than $300...lol These are two normal average dogs, they have decent peds not anything great about them but are better than some, they have had nothing done with them and they don't fall into the fad category. So they will be going for about $200 with their papers and all and thats if they can get them all sold. I've seen them be as low as $50 just to get rid of them so they don't cost the person more money after they are 5,6,7 months old. The cute ones will sell okay, the flashy ones, the ones with nice bone structure(at less then $300 though) then the rest will be left. Another tried to count their chic before they hatched. They hadn't even bought the dog, but they were planning to get a male and find a female to breed it to, somehow they got to thinking 10 pups times $500 thats a lot. I think this was maybe after breeding him to his daughter that they were going to keep for stud fee. Well none of this ever happened but they sure did have big $$ signs in their eyes. I also have seen litters start high and end very low in the 200-300 range, its supply and demand, a big market getting tighter everyday they have to drop prices to compete the dogs as a whole loose value and no one wants to pay the other persons high price when they can get them for 1/2 as much. On the pet store dogs in pet stores are often overpriced and unknowing buyers willingly pay these prices although they would never pay it to an individual. Dogs in pet stores usually come from puppy mills. How do you stud a female out? They are not a stud dog which is a male dog.
Before we got our boxer, we were interested in getting an english bulldog. We contacted a breeder in our area whose dogs had champion bloodlines and were show dogs. The breeder emailed me a picture of a litter their dog had (only 3 puppies). They had a male left with a price of $2300. My husband said there was no way he was going to pay that much for a dog. But with those dogs, there are reasons they are so expensive.
I also wanted to point out that alot of new born EB do die not long after birth(a certain birth defect). Even the mother is a risk because she has to be put under for the c-section. Probly not the best breed to breed for the inexperienced. Also most females need to be artificially inseminated. males I've heard can actually pass out from excitement. These are the reasons that these dogs can be expensive, not because they are money makers. Because you thank the lord you have at least a few healthy babies that live.