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what is so bad about dogs living outside?
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Posted: 12:08:14 AM 11/19/2005
scary our dogs have lived in multiple pet households. they always got along with the animals in the house just fine. it is other strange animals that they would go after. thought the two she has now .. one male and one female ... both altered .... will occasuionally fight with each other. they have all loved people ...... never ever a rpoblem there. not long ago my mom forgot to put her female in her crate before she left the house and the cleaning lady had come to clean the house. engie didnt have a problem whatsoever with the woman coming in the house . she had been coming in and cleaning for so long she wasnt a stranger anymore.
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Posted: 2:39:31 AM 11/19/2005
quote: "maybe your dog is so dominant because he spends almost 24/7 in the backyard"

I have socialized my dog to so many environments that I can't even count them from day one that I got him. He was raised with my family as well, he slept inside until he was 5 months old and I gradually introduced him to the outside.

He was introduced to so many people and small children. He has not shown any aggressivness towards children or other people, its just that he does not listen to any one besides me.

I have taken him to kindergarten classes since he was a puppy, and from day one he wanted to tear appart any other puppy in the class. Also he is aggressive to any other animal as well. With his litter he was raised properly and had accepted all of them, but he was the alfa of the litter.

As Scout said in most of these cases this has nothing to do with socialization it is genetics, and many GSD's are dog/animal aggressive or at least so many people that I have talked to that own GSD's have told me so. Now most GSD's of pet quality (most american show bloodlines, but can be german bloodlines as well) don't show these aggressivness traits, but also lack working drives. My GSD bloodlines come primarly from German bloodlines (his ancesrty has many high schutzhund and other working titles) and american working bloodlines.
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Posted: 5:52:37 AM 11/19/2005
Both of my dogs are inside dogs ,but like some one had said are out side when the family is out side or when the weather is nice and they want to sun bathe on the front porch.I would never keep them out if they didn't want to be out,it's not fair to them ,they are a part of the family.They sleep with me at night.
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Posted: 2:13:20 PM 11/19/2005
people in here have made me feel like i am just the worst human being on the face of the earth. you make it sound like all i do is go out pat them on the head and throw food on the ground and say fend for your selves.but i don't i spend most of the time i am at home with them playing , running, cuddling , and playing fetch. it is not like i just tie them to a tree 24/7 and they get no exercise what so ever. they have an area that is about a half an acre wide and just as long that they run and play in. they have a pool that they play in in the summer time. plus a water bucket that i change at least twice a day if not more than that. i provide the best vet care i can for them , they are up to date on all of their shots, take hw prevention on a monthly bases. i keep the area cleaned and mowed. they have plenty of shade so they are not in the constant sun. i make them hot food in the winter time to keep their bodies warm plus they are wolf/malamute mixes so they have thick fur to begin with.(and i do not care what you think about mixed breeds they are my fav dogs).and plus even if i do let them in they always want right back out i have tried to put them in but they are much happier out where they can see everything that is going on. and as for the post that refered to my having 7 dogs and not wanting to have tem all in the house and that maybe i should not have that many. well i feel that i can have as many animals as i want to as long as my family and bank account can handle it all.
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Posted: 2:15:07 PM 11/19/2005
rednosered
I respect how you live with your dogs and your opinions but I disagree with you if you mean it’s not fair to the dog for my case after all the things I do for him. I can’t make all of his wishes come true, and I don’t believe any of us can. (I wish I could though because I enjoy every minute I am with him). What I will say is just a friendly respond so please don’t get all fired up on me.

If I were to please him all the time, I should quit work and spent with him every single minute. I should divorce my wife and sleep with him so that I spent every single minute with him. I should loose contact and socialization with all my friends and family, so that I can spend every single minute with him. I should never go on vacation. If I were to ask my dog he would want to be loose outside and inside roam around and not have any control over him. I think there are so many things that don’t seem fair to the dog that unfortunately we have to do, that’s life and it is tough sometimes even to us as humans.

Dogs are creatures of habit and they get used to and happy living a certain way if they have a regular schedule. I can assure you my dog lives a quality life and feels loved, accepted and part of the family. I am not pointing on anyone, but this is surely true, some people might offer their dogs the bed to sleep with them, but sure as hell they don’t involve and spent more time (awake) with them in all the activities that I and my dog are involved.

I think my dog would have been happier only if he was owned by somebody who owns livestock and where he would have been able to herd them all day everyday. I feel bad when I leave for work and he stays alone but at least he is not locked inside for 9 to 10 hours in a 2x3/1/2 crate but has room to stretch play around and watch his surrounding and still be protected from outside and weather elements.
Regards
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Posted: 2:48:59 PM 11/19/2005
My dogs are inside dogs and they even sleep with me(they take turns). Last night Lucy slept with me and I just held her as if she was a little teddy bear, I love it!
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Posted: 2:51:01 PM 11/19/2005
We don't allow dogs to sleep with us as we do not want to create issues with alpha, we prefer that the dogs are crated at night, PLUS there is barely enough room for me, my husband, Cinder(the cat) and every now and then our 3 year old ends up in our bed in the middle of the night! LOL
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Posted: 6:13:08 PM 11/19/2005
i never said that my dogs were aggresive. the only time any of them has even snapped at anyone was when my oldest dog got neutered and it went wrong and they had to do a secons surgery the same week cause his sack was filled with blood.and what is rednosered supposed to mean at the top of one of the posts? well i guess if the people is this forum think i am such a lazy, inconsiderate, pet owner then maybe i should not be a part of this forum
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Posted: 6:52:33 PM 11/19/2005
Rednosered is a long time member on here.The reason everyone jumped on you is because you didnt explain how they are not just out there with no attention 24/7!! Your orginal post made it sound like you treated your inside babies better,than the ones outside.I dont think you are a bad doggie owner at all.I dont think wolf mixes are best suited inside anyway.Alot of people on here are not against mixed dogs ingeneral.Its breeding mixed dogs on purpose then making people thinking they are buying this "rare breed" ofr alot of money,when in reality its just a mix that you could get at a shelter.I love wolf mixes,we had one before...he was 99% timber wolf and he was very aggressive,even with extensive socialization.We had to put him to sleep later on,because it got to where we could not feed him.

Next time your looking for a wolf mix,this is a great website to find one.
http://www.liquinet.com/wolfdogadoption/
Just thought I would show you,so you wont have to buy one next time.
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Posted: 8:14:57 PM 11/19/2005
If I offended any one i'm really sorry .I guess my post my post came across wrong. When I said it's not fair ,I meant my dogs because they are such velcro dogs.They just love to follow me from room to room and lay at my feet constantly.Again i'm sorry.They wouldn't do well out side for long periods of time.
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Posted: 8:17:38 PM 11/19/2005
The only scenario that I think a dog SHOULD live outside is like, if you live in a log cabin in Alberta Canada, when there is not enough room to move around yourself inside and the dog you own is a St. Bernard.

Cause they like that.

Otherwise, especially in Arizona in the hot parts, a dog should NEVER be kept outside, unless there is an open doggy door.
Heart
CP
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Posted: 8:46:58 PM 11/19/2005
I am with you Shelby. I have had dogs that I keep inside and dogs that I keep outside. I spend most of my time outside with them anyway. They are not chained up, but are in a large fenced yard in a semi rural area. When it is cold outside, they have a special room set up just for them in the house. They are so not mentally abused by being outside.

Most of the people I know think it's disgusting that I have had dogs inside. They believe that dogs belong outside and outside only. And usually when I visit homes where there are several dogs roaming the house, there is a certain smell there, even if the owner no longer smells it and even if the dogs are bathed regularly. All the doggie perfume in the world has never completely eliminated that smell to me. And why would I deny my dog it's not natural odor to cover it with potentially harmful chemicals just to make my house smell better?

I don't think that dogs must be inside. My dogs prefer being outside. And my relationship with them is the same as my relationship with the ones that I keep inside. No one is wrong for either. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. As long as the dogs are lovingly cared for, what difference does it make?

***Edited By: AustralianShepherdlo on 11/19/2005 8:49:23 PM***
Reason: Added content
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Posted: 8:50:43 PM 11/19/2005
How do you decide which dogs stay in and which dogs stay out?
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Posted: 8:57:32 PM 11/19/2005
It depends soley on the weather.

If you have a golden retriever and live in a cool climate, like Utah or Idaho, then it is fine being outside.

If you live in Arizona, it should NEVER be kept outside.
Same with other hot states.

Heart
CP
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Posted: 9:12:43 PM 11/19/2005
I do have to say if any one who owns a dog is worried about a slight animal smell in their home ,then maybe these people shouldn't own a dog at all.
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Posted: 9:29:22 PM 11/19/2005
For the people with both indoor and outdoor dogs, how do you decide which dogs stay in and which dogs stay out?
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Posted: 9:47:51 PM 11/19/2005
Note, I just said up there about two posts up that it depends on the weather.
Heart
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Posted: 9:50:55 PM 11/19/2005
well the way ido it is my 2 small ones saty in they are 10 pounds and under stay in of course.and the bigger one is only like 30 or 40 pounds and i adopted her from the vet on the day they were going to put her down. and she was not fixed and neither was my outside male dog and then so she just stayed in since then and i could not see inside with out her. and i also could not imagine goig outside and not seeing the ones i have now that would just break my heart my animals are like my childern and i love them so much they bring a smile to my face even when i am down.and every minute that i can spend with them i do and on those moments ican not i am feeling really guilty i don't know why i do but i do.
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Posted: 11:03:04 PM 11/19/2005
My larger dogs who shed a lot stay outside. The smaller ones I kept inside. I only have two large dogs now.
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Posted: 1:57:17 AM 11/20/2005
Its okay rednosered it was just a misunderstanding and thanks for the reply.

As far as smell goes my GSD smell's even though I bathe him, but his smell doesn't bother me at all; how could it bother me if I love him.

Still I could understand people who wouldn't want the smell in their house for various reasons.
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