I read the other post....I for one thank you for rehoming.. I spend a great deal of my time taking them from a shelter situation...getting them shots etc....and then finding them new homes...At our house its called rescue. We mostly do collies but that doesnt stop me from others that would otherwise be put down..and they stay with me until I find a suitable home. I have been accussed of hoarding....so not true....there is a big difference ..and then if you do have a dog you can not bond with they especially need to be rehomed. Ive had dogs left tied to my front door and dumped on my driveway but mostly I work with my vet ...she is the vet or the shelter and wants them adopted not put down. And by the way for anyone that reads this and thinks petsmart is doing such a good thing with their adoption process....I just found out yesterday....they dont do home checks or anything for that matter...Just.. heres your dog and thanks for the money.....
good morning colliemom... i applaud you and what you have been doing...i would put my foot in the hind end of any one who would call you a hoarder or collecter...those people get new animals under the gise of "rescue" but they never adopt them out...you go above and beyond...and that needs to be pointed out...and I know you save so many...many as you have said were dumped and totally unwanted...people need to see the good you do for what it really is...a mission..
I too think rehoming is sometimes what needs to be done...I have sought out just the right new owners for some i have rehomed and painstakenily it took several months....but i feel confident they are in better sittuations then here...im debating to "pet out" a adult now...we are weighing the pros and cons now...trying to keep emotions out of it...I wont sell her to another breeder...but...i would like to find an only dog home just perfect for her...but....we are just begining to talk about it...with 3 females who hate each other...it makes life really hard...but...we have time...and once we decide to 100% do it...it will be set into motion...
Huron..as always ..thanks...At times I find it exceedingly difficult on here...You know I used to be a breeder..It is MY choice not to breed anymore but that doesnt mean I would disrespect you or anyone else for that matter..In fact, I appreciate a lot of the info you and several others put on here...Never toooo old to learn. As for the rescue thing...its my passion....Good thing though that we dont have more room here...There are so many senior dogs that get dumped and not adopted just because of age....oh you knoew me I could go on about this forever....Good luck on the rehome..Im positive you will make the right choice
msg #45 IP: Logged 12:28:52 AM 10/3/2005 This actually pisses me off! How can you guys be so rude! What would you say to me?? I have had MANY animals that I have rehomed. Let's see where should I start???
Shanaa - A cat that was terrified of my daughter and any loud noises - Rehomed Magic - A cat WE raised who turned out not liking kids either - Rehomed Belle - A stray cat that we found in the middle of the street, didn't like men - Rehomed Chloe - Puppy adopted from the shelter, genetic defect in her throat - Put to Sleep Chuka - Sister to Chloe also adopted, hit by car at 9 months old - Died on the way to vet Teyah - A Samoyed adopted from the Shelter, didn't like Chuka(same sex aggression) - Rehomed Naku - Spitz bought from a byb, dog was bought to be rescued from bad place - Rehomed Sulah - Pomeranian bought with Naku, same thing except she didn't like kids or loud noises - Rehomed Kenai - Pomeranian bought from breeder, suffered from severe seperation anxiety as well as was afraid he was going to get hurt by our larger dogs - Rehomed Cheyanne - Pomeranian bought from breeder, never bonded with her as well as afraid she would get hurt from larger dogs - Rehomed Mercedes - Cat adopted from shelter, dissapeared after sneaking out of the house - Missing Kaia - Golden/Chow mix adopted from shelter, suffered from sever luxating patellas as well as rare genetic defect - Put to Sleep
I am sure there are more, it is just late and I cannot think, plus there was a ton of foster animals in there as well. Just because someone rehomes a dog does not mean they do not care about them or any other animal. ALSO, some people want dog asthetically pleasing. I do. When I was looking for my chow puppy, I was looking for something in particular. How rude of you to make fun of someone just because they would like a nice looking dog??? I personally like pugs, pekes, etc. But I like their personality NOT their looks. I would never own one(no offense) I want something fluffy! I like fur! I also have a preference on what I want that fur to look like! I would never get rid of a dog because it didn't turn out the way that I was hoping it would look.But I do look for dogs with a certain "look" I like Goldens and Chows. I also like Pomeranians. Funny thing though, I do not prefer the black chows or pommies. Just don't care much for them.....they are the same dogs just different colors. I must be a bad person. I really like this site but sometimes people just go too far in being rude. Did anyone's mother here ever say to them that if you can't say anything nice, you shouldn't say anything at all???
Oh, yeah, I should mention, The list I wrote above for my animals has been within the last 5 years. Now you will really hate me........oh well! You can't know why someone does what they do unless you are in their shoes.
i think what all you are doing is great. i just saw a dog that looked like a wolf or coyote running around in a bunch of traffic the other day. it looked scared and lost. we were only in our car, but if we were in our truck i would have stopped and picked it up. so we called the state patrol to try to help it before it got hit. that was the only thing we could tink of at the time. i was sad for it. but you guys seem to have great space in your hearts not to mention your house to help all of these animals you take in and then rehome. you should feel good about it and not let others belittle you for it.
and i was wondering about that whole petsmart adoption thing. so are they actually just another petstore selling pets then?! and putting a nice adoption spin on it so you don't feel like you are supporting irresponsible owners/breedeers? if that is the case, good to know!
Minniesue, if I understand correctly, she is saying that the Petsmart dogs up for adoption are actually from shelters or rescues, but that they do not do the proper screening to make sure that they are going to good homes.
I do not know if this is true and standard for all Petsmart Adoptions or if it is something that is and should not be going on at the one Colliemom is referring to.
my local petsmart gives space to the local spca, for cats, and also to forgotten friends, another cat rescue group in the area. we do not have a petco nearby. also petsmart allows different breed rescue groups to set up space inside in cold months or outside in warmer months. the santa, and easter bunny picture fundraisers are run by and for the benefit of various rescue groups. it is rare to go there on a weekend afternoon adn not see a rescue group camped out. most common are the great dane, and greyhound, groups.
the shelters that use petsmart's space (in ours) do not adopt on the spot. it requires an app, then a 48 hr wait, and they check vet ref's and personal ref's and you have to bring proof of ownership (house) or your lease (rental) etc. i know other spca's are $$$=pet but not the two at our petsmart.
Shanaa - A cat that was terrified of my daughter and any loud noises - Rehomed (This cat was brought up from my ex step fathers house and was pretty wild. All she did was hide and run. She was very stressed all the time. I had a VERY young child at the time. I found her a home where there was no kids and she was an only cat)
Magic - A cat WE raised who turned out not liking kids either - Rehomed (Exact same thing, except Magic was a kitten from Tiocy. We had her since she was born, but she was very skiddish. She would get nervous and try to slap at my daughter.....WHO BTW was still just a baby)
Belle - A stray cat that we found in the middle of the street, didn't like men - Rehomed (Technically a foster, we had her for about a month I think. We found her a home of a single, divorced woman and her daughter.)
Chloe - Puppy adopted from the shelter, genetic defect in her throat - Put to Sleep
Chuka - Sister to Chloe also adopted, hit by car at 9 months old - Died on the way to vet (Climbed over 6 ft. kennel. and ran)
Teyah - A Samoyed adopted from the Shelter, didn't like Chuka(same sex aggression) - Rehomed (I lived in a small house, adopted Teyah because she was going to be PTS and it didn't work out. Chuka hated her. We had Teyah for 3 months, helped her lose over 20 pounds, and found her a home as an only dog and a jogging companion)
Naku - Spitz bought from a byb, dog was bought to be rescued from bad place - Rehomed (Naku, was bought as a rescue. He was rehomed to a great woman who hated men and just wanted a dog to dote all of her attention on. Naku now even has his own pool)
Sulah - Pomeranian bought with Naku, same thing except she didn't like kids or loud noises - Rehomed (Sulah is with a friend of mine, she doesn't have little kids. Sulah was scared of my kids playing and would snap at them and also do submissive urinating. She has become queen of her castle and is now very spoiled. She is the love of her owners life)
Kenai - Pomeranian bought from breeder, suffered from severe seperation anxiety as well as was afraid he was going to get hurt by our larger dogs - Rehomed (This was probably the hardest one for me. I LOVED Kenai to death. However, his seperation anxiety was horendous. If you even stopped at a stoplight, he would start freaking out. It was becoming to where he was getting almost hated by my husband as bad as that sounds. Also, Kenai was hurt twice by Koda and Kaia....Kenai now lives on a very large open farm, odly enough with a dog named Koda. He gets to sleep with his new owner who does nothing but dote on him and give him the attention he needs. She is homeschooled so he is with her ALL day. As hard as it was for me, I KNOW he is happier.)
Cheyanne - Pomeranian bought from breeder, never bonded with her as well as afraid she would get hurt from larger dogs - Rehomed (This one I have explained so many times it is pathetic. I STILL have no bond to her, why? I do not know. I really do not like her at all that much.(no offense Michele) BUT where she is now, she is LOVED and she gets TOTAL attention from everyone in the house, the only other animal there is a cat who is outdoor mostly. They also have one daughter who is 5 and they cannot have any more kids so Chey is like the 2nd kid that they couldn't have.)
Mercedes - Cat adopted from shelter, dissapeared after sneaking out of the house - Missing (This cat was HELL to live with, but she was rescued because she was going to be PTS. We posted signs up for over a month looking for her but never found her. She was always trying to dart out around you.)
Kaia - Golden/Chow mix adopted from shelter, suffered from sever luxating patellas as well as rare genetic defect - Put to Sleep
Is there anything else you would like me to explain? Kenai is about the only one that ANYONE could argue with me on and unless you lived with him you would NOT understand.
AND also take note.....EVERY SINGLE ONE of these animals are STILL in their homes, and EVERYONE knows that I will take them back if they cannot keep them. There is NO REASON why I would not take them back. I may rehome them again but I will NOT let them go to shelters again or at all.
Katz, don't let someone that just joined get you all upset. Some people join just to cause trouble. How in the world can that person know what it going on and judge you.
Ask yourself, if the dogs are better off because you took them and found them a home. That should be all you care about.
I wouldn't mind fostering some Min Pins because so many are being turned in to shelters because people can't handle their energy. So far, my husband has no interest in it because he doesn't think he could give up any of the dogs. Maybe some day when we get our business going smoothly again we can do something to help out some animals.
In the meantime, I think it is good to help out a dog or cat and appreciate people who do that.
I am sure you are right. I don't keep up with all the threads so I miss some of the crazies and trolls out there. I like to ignore those threads. Too many good people on here to listen to the people who have no life and like to torment the others on this board. It is unfortunate that some people get turned off and don't come back because of people that are only causing trouble. I think there will always be someone messing with the people on this board. The internet is a great place to meet people but also you have to sort through the undesirables.
As to the petsmart thing... in the area where we are they do NO home checks..or anything else for that matter...I do collie rescue but work with other rescue groups in the area...Lots of times other groups need help to complete a home check..I stopped at petsmart the other day and wanted to leave my name on the list becaue I am able to help with those types of things...The manager or whatever she was told me they dont do that to complete an adoption....
Homechecks are useful tools but they are not 100%.
A lot of people don't care for them and will refuse. A lot of people get insulted by them. And before we say they shoul;dnt if they have nothing to hide, it must be remembered that people don't understand. There are lots of great pet homes out there that have completly diffrent concepts of some basic stuff and if you told them that you wanted to go to their home to see if they where suitable to take home a kitten I know a lot of people who would tell you to go screw and would get a kitten elsewhere and take the best of care of it its entire life.
While I like home checks, and understand their need, there is a flip side to them as well and they do scare off plenty of very nice sane normal people who don't get their point.
I've gotten a cat from a rescue that just let you sign and take. Shes one of my cooler cats as well and amazingly we havent tossed her out of the window.
Icyhound, I find that home checks are a very good thing and anyone that would be insulted would not need a pet from me...One of the most important things needed is a fence around the area the dog would be in when outside. When we "home" checks it also includes a call to their vet if they have one and a personal reference to see that hopefully it will be a new responsible owner instead of .."oh isnt that a cute dog" and then a few months down the line the dog is back at the shelter waiting to be put down or thrown away as they do a lot of here. Then we have a poor dog that gets hit by a car or truck.
The reason that I ask is that there is huge debate about that in this area. A lot of people can not have fences, by their HOA rules in this area. So they walk dogs, use dog parts, pet sitting etc etc etc. Its causing a lot of problems a lot of dogs not being adopted becuase people don't have fenced yards.
Yet a lot of people don't put hte dog in the yard. I have only had a fence for the last 4 years of pet ownership myself, so I'm one of those people that don't feel a fence is nessessary to have a dog.
This is just curiousity. I know exactly where you are coming from Collie and its not that I disagree with you insofar as that there is another side that I feel needs just as much coverage in these situations.
I feel your pain Katz. I've gotten a lot of criticism in the past about all types of things with animals. I'm trying to rehome Milo right now. I'm trying to find him a quiet home because he is just scared to death here. I wish you luck with whatever you decide. I know you have the animals well being at heart and I understand how hard of a decision it can be.