scout, i was curious about that gsd too. it seemed like when he ran he almost stumbled a few times ! i noticed the judge was taking a real hard look at that. maybe why he didnt get put in the final line-up. i remember watching when the gsd, dallas, won. he had some slight angulation, but nothing as sever as i saw on that dog at westminster. i just cant imagine how that could not be painful for the dog to run, let alone walk. around the ring.