Hello everyone- I took in some Saint Bernards that owner/breeder had passed away one month ago. I heard about these dogs, and wanted to help. There were two 6 month old puppies, that have never been vaccinated, an older male Saint-probably 6 years old, and a pregnant bitch-Mom to the 6 month old pups-she is 4 years old. After I picked up all of the dogs, we loaded them in two different trucks and the Saints were loaded in pet crates. I had the truck with the two puppies. I pulled over after being on the road for 30 mintues to check on the puppies, I noticed the "death smell" coming from one of the crates, and I noticed blood on the crate and the puppy had bloody water on it's tail. I took the puppies straight to my vet, the puppy with the bloody stool was kept at the vet clinic since this Friday, I feared that he had just broke with parvo. My vet offered to send him home on Saturday. I told him no, since I really thought that he had parvo and asked to keep him another day. This puppy has now broke with parvo, and his litter mate that he had been in with is doing okay so far. I gave him to family along with the Dad to the puppies. I did tell them that the puppies could have parvo and to not let him go anywhere. So far he is not sick. I just called the eldery lady that had cared for these dogs, they had belonged to her son that passed away one month ago. I wanted to know the dates of the vaccinations to the Momma dog that is pregnant. Come to find out, after she called the vet this dog has only had one shot in '04 for rabies, and when they bought this Momma dog 4 years ago at 6 weeks old the breeder told them that she had her puppy shots, so she has not ever had any more shots other that the one rabies shot and the 6 week old vaccination. I just about fell off my chair. These are people that have bred two other litters of puppies from this dog. I have no idea when this Momma dog is going to whelp, I would guess within 2 weeks. I know you cannot vaccinate a pregnant bitch, so what are the chances of a 4 year pregnant dog coming down with parvo?? I will have all her shots done right after she whelps, I am lost with the mess. I am already paying for the parvo treatment on her 6 month old puppy, trying to save him. I have my own litter of puppies here, and I do not want to risk giving them parvo, that is why I only brought the Momma dog here and I had understood she had been vaccinated until this morning. Any suggest out there on what I should do with Momma?
Please read what I posted, the Mom has only had one shot period at 6 weeks old. She is now 4 1/2 years old. One of the puppies is staying with my vet getting treatment and the other is in a home with no other dogs except his Dad. I read that dogs can be carriers of parvo...could Mom be a carrier? Not sure what to think at this point.
The ugly truth is that parvovirus is insanely hard to kill. It survives in the ground for more than 8 months. My vet told me that regardless of the care people take with puppies to keep them completely clear from parvovirus, if you brush against a stranger at your local Wal-mart who's got a dog that is infected, you are probably taking it home to your family. It's just that contagious. If momma dog has been around any dog that has it, she's got the virus on her skin and in her fur, and you can't kill it wtihout bleaching the whole dog. Not something I"d recommend.
now, that said, if the mother dog has never had parvovirus and has been around other dogs that have it (incubation is 7 to 10 days), she must have built up her own immunity to it even though she's only had one shot. Its extremely unusual for adult dogs to get it, even if they've never been vaccinated. This is because it's a disease that primarily targets puppies 6 months and younger.
Basically what I'm saying is that the mother should pass what immunities she has down to her offspring through her milk during nursing. That hopefully will be enough to tide them over until they are getting close to weaning, 7+ weeks in age and can be given vaccinations. From my personal experience and knowledge, it's pretty unusual for puppies that are younger than 8 weeks old to get parvovirus. Thats because, again, they have the mother's antibodies from drinking her milk.
Sorry for the confusion. I meant if the puppies mother that you currently have at home was UTD on shots, not the new female. It most likely isnt a problem with adult dogs, its more of a puppy virus but adult dogs can still get it.
Oh my, Thats a lot to handle. Well the older animals, even with out Vaccines have a better chance then very young animals when it comes to Parvo. . So your main concern is isolating mom, I would bath her, and then isolate her from the sick animals, in a sterile environment. Actually it would be best to get all the others out. Sterilize everything, with bleach.And generally give everything a good scrub down. If the new born puppies get exposed to the Parvo, they are pretty much done for. Consult your Vet about any treatments that you could at lest start to better her chances of avoiding the illness.. I would take in a fecal sample and have it tested for Parvo as well. A nurseing female you would not VAccinate anyway.
***Edited By: sue on 5/1/2006 4:25:06 PM*** Reason: fjmfg
I am sooo sorry to hear about your situation. My rottie pup came down with parvo, we lost 1 other pup, but mine made it. (Thank God) We treated him at home b/c we couldnt afford the hospital treatment. We owned the mother, she never had parvo, and thankfully, never contacted it. Unfortunately dogs are prone to parvo until 2 yrs of age, after that they have built up enough immune system to fend it off. Parvo is extremely contagious (airborn). Since your female is 4 yrs old the odds of her getting it are very slim, however given her shot history, I would get her vaccinated asap. If your personal female is UTD on shots, then I really dont see a problem. Just keep the areas clean as possible. Since the female Saint is not showing signs yet, your'e probably in the clear, and lucky. But parvo has an incubation period of 7 -10 days, if it has been longer than that, youre fine. Good Luck!!!!
I had 2 chihuahuas and a pekingnese here awhile back and a lady come to my house to get my pekingnese well her dog had just died and I did not know from parvo she brought in my house.Well exactly a week from here being here my chihuahua that was out that night died having all her shots she was only 5 months old.My other chihuahua that I had was 5 months old at the time and had no shots did not contract from her and have brought 2 more in my home and neither have they they were 6 weeks old when I got them and all is fine.So parvo is scary to deal with but I guess it is just there systems.