I don't know the average weight of an Aussie, but I would not think they would do well in apartment life unless you are prepared to take really long walks/runs. Aussies are very energetic breed and need to be able to run off that energy otherwise you're asking for some possibly destructive behavior from sheer boredom.
Do you want a "guard dog" that just has a big bark & will alert you or do you want a dog for protection? If the latter, I know of none under 40 lbs. Bostons, Pugs, Westies, are a few smaller breeder (big dog bark) that come to mind off the top of my head.
a greyhound is a perfect apartment dog that is also large. unfortunately it is over 40 pounds. maybe a whippet instead ? i would stay away from most of the herding breeds unless you are a super active couple who walks or jogs miles a day. not real sure about any 40 lb guard dogs ... most guardian breeds are quite a bit bigger. are you looking for a dog just to bark warnings when people are around ? most any breed will do that much. how about a standard poodle ?
Crow, check into French Bulldogs....Great small dog with minimal grooming requirements. Very good watch dogs, but not Guard dogs. They will let you know when someone is around! The average weight is about 20-30lbs. Good luck with your search !
If you live on the first or second floor, I'd say maybe a bulldog. They are not very energetic, but can look mean. Otherwise, I'd say a Mastiff, they are great guard dogs, but wouldn't hurt a soul unless necessarily. But, mine was over 200 lbs. Also, my Lhasa Apso has a big dog bark, but I don't think that's typical of Lhasa's--I was just "blessed" with his loud bark early in the mornings.
Aussies are quite large dogs, our family (aunt and uncle) has 2 of them. They are SO beautiful, but theirs are about the size of a Lab, maybe a little smaller. I would go with a smaller dog for an apartment, that would be all right with living inside full time. Most toy /mini breeds stay inside all the time, just going outside to potty and of course...........long walks and exercise are a MUST for all dogs, big or small, inside dog or outside, apartment dog or farm dog. Maybe a mini Schnauzer ? They are wonderful dogs, about 15 lbs or so. I cant think of any around 40 lbs, maybe a Beagle? Do you like long or short hair?
And....when you get your dog.....Please post pics! I would love to see :o) Good luck in your search!
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I would consider an adult rescue. If you are in an apt, barking is going to be a concern, and a dog from foster care will give you more insight to how he or she acts in day to day life.
To get an aussie you would need to consider doggie sports, and the neighbours. There's 4 in my agility class and they are all non stop barkers, on top on unendless energy.. and they all get more excercise than the average pet.
***Edited By: MafiaPrincess on 5/15/2006 9:45:38 PM*** Reason: add
look into shiba-inu, they adapt well to apartment life, I have 2 in my apartment. They can be guard dog, big bark and whatnot, but are normaly very quiet. They also are fine with being alone when you are working, they are not a needy breed. And since you can never let them off lead taking them out on a leash is okay as well.
Crow, if you want a really great little dog-get a Boston Terrier. They are not barkers-mine only bark once or twice and that is if a stranger comes to the door. They do well in apartments, love kids, shed very little, and love riding in the car. I think they are wonderful little dogs. They are low maintanence on grooming-ears stand on their own at 2-4 months of age and are born with a short tail--and you will just love the "alert" expression on their face. I am a Boston lover. CeCe
she said she may want a sheltie,she really likes aussies. whats an average wait of a 1 1/2 year old australian shepard?i on the other hand cant be to picky for a guard dog but im thinking about a french bulldog or any bulldog for that matter.
HEATHER! Too funny, I was just yesterday commenting to Sampson's breeder that he's got the best bark, it's really deep and he sounds like a big dog! Baxter (bichon frise) has a very yappy bark and when he gets going...LOOK OUT! Sampson (lhasa) will just sort of look at him and sigh as if to say "silly dog!" That said, the lhasa in the pet store does not have a deep bark, and we didn't hear Sampson's until he was home for 2-3 weeks. --Sampson weighs in at 15 pounds (10 months old) Baxter is 13 lbs at a year old.
I live in an apartment with a 40 lbs. limit as well.
My fiancÚ and I own 2 Aussies. Our female is 6.5 months old and weighs about 22 lbs. She will not get much bigger than that...she might top out around 25-30 lbs. Our male is going to be around 40 lbs. we estimate. He may get a little bigger...40-45 lbs. We let our apartment complex know that though. They approved him.
We got both of ours from a NON registered breeder. Only because I know the breeder and have worked with her and this breed before. She breeds them for working purposes NOT show purposes.
You can find breeders that breed a smaller stature of Aussie but if you go to a respectable and responsible breeder then you may not be able to find a correct standard aussie that will stay under 40 lbs. Most will get between 40-55 lbs. That is for males though. Females are usually smaller frame, though not always. It depends on the lines and the breeder.
They require a lot of exercise. We take our two out for 2 hour walks every morning and then again at night after work. On the weekends we take them out for hours playing and hiking. They require a lot of play time. They learn quick and for us they are GREAT apartment dogs. It depends on your time and willingness to keep up with their exercise requirements. They are also very social dogs - as far as their family goes. They will follow you around as if they are your shadow. I love them, truly my favorite breed.
I believe it's not that the people live in apartments that CAUSE the breed to get bored and become destructive and such...it's more if the people do not have the time.
As I stated above, I have 2 Aussies. Before the two I have now I had 3 Australian Shepherds...1 while living with relatives and the other 2 while living in an aparment. I never had a single problem with them.
Granted I did not breed them but I have had aussies for most of my life.
I think they only get bored if you don't keep them active enough...they need some sort of "job" to do and will create their own if left to just lay around. A bit of exercise and play outside daily and they are okay.
Truthfully they are one of the best breeds to have in an apartment as they learn quick and are CONSTANTLY by your side to help in companionship and "security."
Oh heavens not a beagle...they are notorious barkers! How about a bull terrier, the Target mascot dog? They are the right size and can be quite fierce if they need to be. Never had one, but I hear they're great dogs. And for your situation, the right size, easy to groom smooth coat, and a tough demeanor. I wouldn't try to get past one!
I am speaking from experience here as well. My dogs are from working lines as well. Both in herding as well as agility. My dogs lines trace back over generations of working lines - no show lines.
I am speaking on behalf of the breed as well. Apartment or not does not make a difference. It is whether the BREED/DOG will be given enough exercise.
Both of my current aussies (both working lines) have strong working instincts. Both do great in my apartment. But as I said earlier... They both get taken out first thing in the morning for a 2 hour walk before we go to work. At the end of the day they go out for another 2 hour walk at night or have herding, agility or just play at the park. On the weekends they go hiking, camping, and canoeing with us. They are out and about most of the weekend.
So you are telling me that you would never have allowed my family to have a pup from you because of the fact that we live in an apartment. Regardless of the fact that we have had years of experience with the breed, are extremely active, and have great vet/personal references to back that up... You would have declined us simply due to the fact that I live in an apartment. Would it be the same if I lived in my OWN home without a backyard?
I don't doubt that your lines are very strong in the "working fields" and I understand that you know what your dogs are capable of along with their wants/needs. I am simply trying to state that living in an apartment should not be the REASON to decline someone...perhaps other things should be taken into account.
A breeder (show and working) that is my mentor (she is in TX) has no biased to apartment living or not. She herself, while owning working dogs, lived in an apartment with them while her mentor had the dogs at her home frequently (as I'm told every other day as often as possible) for herding and agility trials. According to her living in an apartment is NOT a reason to decline someone of one of her dogs. She takes several things into account:
Time dog will be left alone Exercise Space in apartment If they have other pets Vet references Personal references Financial state of potential buyer
She nor I would ever turn away a person simply because they lived in an apartment (or a home without a yard).
I understand it is YOUR PREFERENCE and am NOT debating that. I am simply trying to understand why you would have that as an automatic reason to decline someone of a puppy.
I will not debate on this further as it is simply a difference in opinions...perhaps ignorance on your part (for not getting more information on those people that you declined simply because they lived in an apartment) or perhaps not. Either way...we will just have to agree to disagree on this point.
I will state that in the future (once I am living in my own home with plenty of land) I will start my breeding program (of both working and show lines) and will NOT have a rule against people that live in an apartment for that reason alone. MY preference... And the reason I am waiting for more land is because I feel it would be unfair to keep more than 1-2 dogs in an apartment...and bringing puppies up should require much more space than MY apartment will allow.
So...with that I wish you all a good night and hopefully we will talk again on a different subject. One that perhaps we will be able to agree on.