7 ounces at 7 weeks is really small. Even Chihuahuas, which are the smallest breed, are over a pound by this age. It doesn't necessarily mean that your Pom will be unhealthy, but it does increase the risk of hypoglycemia and hydrocephalus (water on the brain). If you really, really want this Pom, I would try emailing the breeder and ask if they wouldn't mind keeping the pup until 11 or 12 weeks. Say that you are concerned about their weight, and it would make you feel better if they stayed with their mum longer. If they are a good breeder, they will have no problem with this. If they insist on shipping the pup off at 8 weeks, then they probably don't care too much about their dogs and it would be a big red flag. If that happens, I would almost forget about the 100 deposit and back out. You will be out that 100, but better then the whole 1,000 and then dealing with vet costs later if the puppy isn't healthy.
If the breeder is willing to keep the puppy longer, I would still get her if you really want her. Are you having her shipped? Maybe you could pick her up instead. She would be able to ride in the plane with you, and it would cost about the same it would to ship her, and would be less stressful.
Are you having this puppy shipped to you? If so the breeder will HAVE to have an interstate health certificate that says the puppy is free of infectious disease and healthy enough to with stand the travel. This will have to be done BEFORE the puppy is shipped. Be honest with the breeder, express you concerns that the puppy has not grown and ask to speak directly with the vet that does the vet check BEFORE the puppy is sent.
Ask why the vet feels the puppy is so small. Ask if it has an open fontal (sp)-- soft spot. Ask if it looks like it has the hydrocheplis (sp) -- water on the brain or if it seems like a failure to thrive puppy. Ask if he will put that in writing (as an extra note in addition to the health cert).
Then if this vet says every thing is clear and after pom is shipped to you with in 24 hours take it to a vet you know and trust. Have them do a thourough exam, with a full fecal panel-- including coccidia and guardia because those could kill a puppy so quick being it is that tiny.
Then what type of health guarantee does this breeder offer? See the contract before the puppy is sent. You should at least have 72 hours to make sure the puppy is satisfactory, but if you need to return it, make sure you realize that you may be paying travel fees both ways. If that will be more than you are losing with the deposit, think about it before you take this puppy. If it is a reasonable guarantee with a 1 year genetic guarantee, you may be more likely to gamble and wait and see if the puppy is okay or not. Just remember you will fall in love with that puppy the second you see it and you will not want to give it back if it is unhealthy once you have it.
There could be a lot of reasons why the puppy is staying that small. Besides genetic defect it could be something as simple as mother having poor milk production and this breeder doesn't know or believe in supplimenting. Maybe there are too many littermates and this one is not aggressive enough to get a nipple. Maybe it has an issue with parasites that have been sucking away its nutrients. I am sure I am missing a few other reasons, so doing worry too much before you have a few more answers.
I had to give advice on this topic. My brother and his family got a chi from a breeder that let them go at 6 weeks. I tried to get them to wait because it was such a small puppy, but they were to excited and got her anyway. Believe me, they would be the first to tell you to see if you could wait to get your pup when she is older and weighs more. We had to force feed the puppy several times because her blood sugar kept dropping. She is 2 now and very healthy but it was a long hard road and we almost lost her several times. My brother would come home from work everyday at lunch to make her eat because she couldn't wait all day while they were at work to eat. They would leave her dry food but she would not eat much and then her sugar would drop before he got home. She weighed 12 ounces when she was 12 weeks old. Now she weighes around 5 1/2 lbs. She is a wonderful dog but almost didn't make it because the breeder sold her at such a young age.
It seems like the OP really doesn't want our advice. Everything everyone has said to him/her they've come back with an excuse. Therefore, they are looking for someone to say "no this is not a scam, get your puppy." You are not going to find that answer here. Why? There are no "teacup" poms, and mini breeds like that should be staying with their moms longer than 8 weeks.
***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 5/27/2006 7:30:31 AM*** Reason: add
A dog that small, and that young will need to be nursing from her mother. Perhaps give us the kennel name, so we can look into it. The youngest pup I ever bought was at 9 weeks old, he was a papillon and he did just find with us but he also weighed about 3 pounds. 7 ozs demonstrates that the puppy is still nursing. Why buy the first puppy you see online? And a college student, will you have the time for a puppy.
I wouldn't ask for advice if I didn't need it and I'm not making excuses. I simply trying to lay out all the facts so that everyone will know the "whole" story as being told to me and I will get the best advice that way. I am go school break from now until august and the I'm taking 5 classes so I will lots of time for dog, my 5 yr rott. Just passed away so I am capable of taking care of a dog.
Thank you everyone for the great advice about the vets and such definitly will use also the breeder is on this site I'm not sure I can name her but she's under pomeranians and her heading says tinny teacup weighting 6ozs. Please read it and tell me what u think:)
After seeing the ad, I personally think you should run. For one, she is advertising them as teacups, and two, she is using a registry that is typically used for pet shop dogs.
And, even though it's hard to tell by a picture, I personally do not believe that those Poms are only 6 ounces. There is no way. It appears that she is trying to pass them off as 'teacups' to get more money. They look like they will be standard size. But again, it's hard to tell by a pic. But I've seen smaller Poms, and 6 ounces is really small. And to brag about being that small is kind of iffy I think.
I for one don't have a problem with the term 'teacup' as long as it's not used to make more money, and just used to describe the dog. But I do not believe in a whole litter of teacups like this lady is saying she has. That's usually a red flag. Usually, the 'teacup' of the litter is actually the premature baby. Dogs can breed over several days. Which means that they can conceive a puppy one day, and if bred the next day, can conceive again. So basically, the 'teacup' is the puppy that was conceived last. So when they're all born, this puppy is literally a few days to up to a week younger then the rest of the litter. And that's why they are so small. And because of this, it doesn't mean they will stay small, it just means they are younger. So, if there is a so called 'teacup' in the litter, usually it's just one puppy. Puppies that actually end up staying smaller are the ones that are just genetically predisposed to be, and you can't tell that sort of thing until at least 6-9 months, not 6-8 weeks. Usually, the preemie in the litter will catch up to the rest of the litter by that time.
If size is important to you, I would just look into a local breeder. One where you can see the puppies for yourself. And also, one that won't charge you more for that 'teacup'. When I got my Chihuahua, she was definately the preemie of the litter. But I actually paid less for her because of her size, and the breeder wouldn't let me have her until 12 weeks. The good breeders will do that.
***Edited By: Huntersmom on 5/27/2006 12:11:06 PM*** Reason: ...
Online breeders tend to be back yard breeders. Not good -------------------------------------------
Ooops, that is going to cause some controversy!
I for one have an online ad, not on any of the free sites, or here. But I do keep one year around posting that I pay annually for. It is on whether I have pups available or not. I also show my dogs, etc, etc, etc.
Am I a BYB because of my listing on the breeder site?
I raise Yorkies that avg. about 4-5 lbs as adults. When they are BORN they weigh 4 oz. and are probably 3-4 inches long. As a "general rule" you can triple the weight at 8 wks. ( on toys) SO if the pup weighs 16 oz OR 1 lb, It will be aprox. 3 lbs as adult. I just talked to my friend that raises really tiny yorkies and she did have a pup that weighed 8 oz at 8 wks. I remember that pup now because I made her put the pup on a scale and send me a picture on the scale. I didn't believe her, ( smile) She let that pup go at 14wks and she said it will be 2-2/12 lbs adult. Do you have any pictures of the pup? If this is true ,I would call her vet to make sure the well check went ok. If she is legit, she will be happy to give you the vets phone #. DO NOT take the pup until it's at least 14 wks!!!!
***Edited By: jeanief on 5/27/2006 12:57:44 PM*** Reason: sp
ipn 169 LOL by your own definition you are! but how many of us who do it right rent out commercial space for a dog kennel? Gee I breed my Dobes in my backyard, I have 2 acres but it's basically my backyard!