This ticks me off to no end... How dare someone auction off a dog to the highest bidder.. This person doesn't give a rip who gets them, they just want the money. GRRRRRRRRRRR I hope AKC has some ruling on this, and nails this person to the wall.
If they don't have a ruling on this I would like to start a petition to stop auctioning dogs like this from happening.
This is in no part being a responcible breeder, I don't understand how someone can condon this!!
I know you are hoping the AKC can do something-but you need to remember they are a registry-plain and simple. They are not the dog police, the are not the savior of the dog world. I like working with them, but I think the public has serious misconceptions of what the AKC is-not saying you're one of them-as you've been here for a long time.
The AKC actually has a rep at the auctions to be sure the dogs are microchipped and that the information matches up, as all AKC dogs that are sold at auction must be microchipped. I'm sure they are not in favor of them, but they don't do anything to stop them. So I really doubt you'll get the answer you're hoping for.
There are many rescues that attend auctions too, so if you'd like to see them taken in, maybe contact a rescue in that area and see if they plan to be present. I think that would be the route to go.
-OR- I'm sorry, is this an online auction, maybe what I've posted doesn't apply. If not, please disregard my post, then I would contact the AKC, as I do not know their standpoint on online auctions.
"The American Kennel Club considers auctions and raffles not to be reasonable and appropriate methods to obtain or transfer dogs. The AKC's inspection program includes kennels/individuals offering dogs for sale at auctions. Additionally, AKC requires that dogs sold at auctions, regardless of age, be permanently identified by either readable tattoo or microchip prior to being sold at auction. Dogs sold at auction without the required identification will become ineligible for registration and shall be placed on permanent referral."
So does this mean they have to have an AKC rep at this auction to sell these dogs and they have to be microchipped or tattooed..
Don't quote me on this, but I think if they plan to have the AKC paperwork transferred to the new owner, or for the owner to take advantage of it, they must have an AKC rep there. Not 100% sure. Is this a dog auction or another type of auction that just happens to be selling 3 beagles in addition to other items? Yes, they have to be microchipped if they are planning the transfer of AKC papers-otherwise, I believe the papers are forfeited.
***Edited By: myshadow on 10/13/2006 2:29:08 PM*** Reason: add
LPN-not sure if you mean me or not, but I've only heard of them, so I'm not sure of any sites.
If it is a general auction and the AKC is not represented there, then I think they'll lose their AKC privledges as well as forfeit the papers. HOpefully the new owners who buy them will understand that.
I am not so sure about that. That would be a question for AKC rep to answer (about the requirement for a representative to be there).
The bottom line is that unless some one goes there, takes down all the beagles AKC numbers and information as proof, and then reports it to AKC---AKC will NEVER KNOW-- exactly what beagles were sold at auction as opposed to purchased by another method.
The papers do not ask how the dog was obtained. As long as the former owner signs off to the new owners.
myshadow, sorry, I didnt specify, lol. I was referring to luvstallmen to link me. I doubt that an AKC rep being present is 'mandatory' as long as the papers are legit and they sign them over to you, it wont matter where they were obtained.
I can go to a dog show, take a pup with me I plan to sell to another breeder/show person...sign the papers etc. no rep is required to witness it.
I live in Missouri, and there are many dog auctions here. I have only been to one before. We went to see what it was like. It was all milles, with a few people there for rescue. Super sad to say the least. Old dogs, puppies they had they all. People that had their dogs there to sell, or there to buy were nasty unkept looking people. It was interesting to say the least. Some people actually bring 200 dogs or more to sell. WOW! We talked to some people that worked for the auction group, sad to hear that some people will take dogs there to sell. If no one buys that dog, THEY LEAVE IT THERE! Oh yes, they do...I could not believe that. I will not go again, it was just too sad. We were there to rescue a few Saints, obviously they do not want people to rescue the dogs. We told people that we were going to "rescue" the Saints, we left for lunch for an hour since the were not to auction the Saints for a few more hours. While we were at lunch they sold the Saints. One of the older pups sold for $10. She had a very bad bite and was a bad example of the breed. We just wanted to find her a pet home and a good life. We offered the lady that bought her $100 and she said "NO". She was going to breed her and have puppies? Man, people are nasty.
The AKC can not stop people from auctioning dogs. Even if they pull paperwork, and they often do, it is the state/county laws that are going to dictate the auction or not.
People who are buying dogs at an auction are not ethical or responsible people in the first place. The dogs are not their pets, nor are they thinking that obtaining these dogs is going to improve any breeding program.
There are many groups that are against auctions. I advise you to start with the auctal laws instead of attempting to pull a orginization that has absoutly no pwoer into it.
Two out of three of our dogs come from dog auctions. One was from an Amish puppymill in Ohio and the other from an Amish mill in Missouri. These dogs never get vet care, they don't get feed well and are treated very bad. No one loves or cares about them. They are filthy and hungry, over bred and put to death when they are no longer able to produce puppies. Friends of ours do rescue and the stories they have told me are horrible. When they go to the auctions they cannot let on that they are rescue, because if they do the millers will out bid them to stop them from getting the dogs. It's all very sad and heart breaking.
Icyhound you are wrong when you say that people who buy from a auction are unethical or responsible. I am one of those people who bought a dog from a auction for a pet his name is aspen which is a 13 pound akc microchipped maltese with a underbite and health problems.He is a great pet that we love to death wouldnt trade for anything. We breed boxers and mini sch and would never sell are puppys there but have bought ourselves and are parents pet from auctions.