What I thought would be a catastrophy has actually been quite interesting. Having a large dog around has kept the girls in line. Being the first large dog they've encountered in their home, they take his behavior as an example. The amount of food stealing had decreased significantly and the frolicking around the house and yard has increased! Also because he recently had surgery, he has been a good example for us to show Alexis (3 yr old) how we give special care to older doggies, and how we pet gently, and how we watch where we are walking etc..
She is not used to being careful since her and the girls have always been such "litter mates" since day one.
Also, I had forgotten how nice it is to have a big lump of hair in the house, watching out the window, listening to me talk.following me around and being attentive.it's wonderful.
I have gotten used to our girls being so pack attached that I had forgotten that most dog's act that way towards their owner not the other way around.
I have been looking into two breeds in particular...the Newfoundland and the great pyrenees. They are both gorgeous dog's that could fint into our family and life style. Anybody have any suggestions for good reading about them. Mostly all I have read is "gentle giants" and barkers. Also, if anybody had PICTURES I'd love to see!
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The barking more so pertains to the pyrenees but any dog will bark if he'she isn't kept busy.
The washington state pyrenees rescue group I am talking to gave me a list of things they do that tend to be the reasons they are abandoned. I looked at it and laughed...most of them are things MOST dogs and MY dogs do.* barking, shedding, digging, being possesive of family, energy, grooming...etc.
I filled out an application and am waiting for an information packet.
I know a coule of GSD that are like that... keep little dogs and puppies in line.
Out trainer would bring her older male to puppy class. When they got to be left off leash and run around and mingle (we were suppose to call them back to work on their recall) there would be a couple that would just keep playing and he'd go break them up. LOL. It was so cute!!
He'd also lay down with a couple of puppies and play gently with them... then we got yelled at for distracting them. LOL.
My mom says her poodle used to boss my little sister around. When she was in diapers "Rusty" would keep her in the kitchen by sitting down in the doorways. Apparently even into toddlerhood if Lindsay was out of eye shot my mom would tell him to "find Lindsay" and he would, lol. She say's he was the cheapest babysitter she ever had.
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i had a great pyrenees. her name was lottle princess ( it was her show name given to her by her breeder ) we called her prinny for short.
mine was not an extreme barker. she barked at all the normal htings dogs bark at but not excessively. i had always wanted a LGD and she was our first. she is responsible for me totally falling head over heels for these types of breeds.
for their size they dont seem to eat a whole lot and it is normal for them to put themselves on a few day fast. you can NEVER allow them off leash as they WILL rake off on you and you can call them til you are blue in the face and if they find something more interesting then you they WILL NOT come back. they are extremely intelligent but can be disobedient. they are very independent in their thinking and if they decide they dont want to d something they wont do it. they also seem to decide that what you want isnt always what they want, or that they know better then you so getting them to obey you 100 ervent of the time can be quite a challenge and near impossible sometimes. they have tons of hair which will eave you house looking like it snowed if you do not keep up with the vacuming or sweeping. they can be a very dominant breed so you must make sure you make it clear to them who is in charge in the house.
they alaso are the most gentle and loving of dogs. they seem to adore children. they are a very prtoective bred but not an aggressive breed. taking the pyr out and socializing it with eveyrone and every situation is a must.
pyrmom can prolly tell you a lot more then i did as she is owned by 3 of them .
Scout thank you for sharing! I have adored then for some time. Right out of highschool myself and bf at the time, which is my now hubby went to PAWS and that's the first time I saw the breed. Her name was Baby and she was a DOLL! But there was already an adoption pending on her. We found a lovely little boy, Sitka, a small husky instead. I never forgot about Baby though.
Pyrmom if you could mail me I have some questions to ask you, if you have the time!
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nice pictures Michelle.Newfie_girl has newfies.I have been aorund both breeds quite a bit.My neighbor has both.It seems like the newfie is a betetr little kids dog.They are more protective of kids and ador kids.They also for some reason seem to know their size a bit betetr than the Pyr.Both are great dogs adn shed about the same.Drool about the same also.If your family lieks the water then I would go with the Newfie.if you want a dog that isnt going to splash in every puddle and want to be out when its raining dont get a newfie.I think the Pyr has a tad mroe energy.The newfie loves ot be with family.The Pyr is more of a guard dog the Newfie usually just stands between its family and the stranger.But they will protect if needed.Both are smart dogs,but I find that the Newfie is a tad mroe willing to please and not an independent dog.
i have a pyrnees she is almost 13 yrs old she is such a gentle giant she is about ninty five pds they have a double like your malamute that you are taking care of by the way your daughter is a beauty like your malamute they do shed alot so we keep ours outside my family own a retirement home so she comes in every ones in a while just to hi to everyone if they dont pet her she will hit their hand as she was saying here i am now pet me their are some residents that are a little afraid of her so she leaves them alone i have a 20 month old nephew and she is very gentle with him he loves to take her for walks and he loves to feed her biscuits and give her big hugs
Hannah, Thanks for the info. We are leaning toawrd the pyrenees because there seem to be more in the Washington area than newfoundlands, plus if I got a newfie I'd HAVE TO HAVE a BRONZE. They are STUNNING! And I can't find any to rescue. I also think the energy level of the pyrenees would be better. We are active and I don't want a couch potato,lol.
Edie, Thanks for the kudos on my daughter and the response. How long have you had your pyrenees? How often do you groom? I'm used to doing the whole nail clip, bath, blow dry, and brush routine every other week.
Hannah, I disagree with you about the Pyrs not being as aware of their size or being less accepatable around kids. I have 10 grnadchildren and my Pyrs have been with these kids from the first. The three youngest children learned how to walk by holding on to the dogs.
It is in the training or lack thereof that you find problems. Both breeds are wonderful, with sweet and gentle dispositions. Both breeds are giant breeds and CAN cause harm if not properly soicalized and trained. Period.
They are both big dogs and can knock a child to the ground accidently. Then again, I have seen an unsteady toddler trip over a small/toy breed dog. It's the parents responsibility to keep a close eye on child and pet, regardless of the size of the pet.
While my guys are wonderful with the kids, I pity any outsider who attempted to harm one of these children.
They are dogs, they are large, they have teeth and they are protective of their "herd".
BTW, my Pyrs are bred tightlipped and only drool when they drink or when they are over excited.
Michelle, all of the grooming and feeding tips are on the site that I sent you the link for, http://pyrpups.com . While I haven't updated the site in well over a year (I know I'm bad) I have sections on there for;
Rescue Pyrs & Children Digging & Barking Personality Grooming Health & Lifespan On-Line Resources
Here are a few pics of my dogs with various grandchildren....and trust me, little boys CAN be rough and tumble.
Cat, Your site is one of the best sources I've found. Lots of good info and TONS of pictures!
You mentioned your dog's are "tight lipped"? How do breeder's make that happen? I know that if it is possible to get a pup/adolescent that will slobber/drool less I am all for it! Do you yourself breed? If so, any pups coming in the next 6 months? (worth a try!)
Also about the grooming, there is a top coat and undercoat, should I use a "rake" to get out the mat and or old hair? And the extra dew claw, being that it is "breed standard" what does that mean exactly? It is essential for them to keep for health reasons? Or essential for show?
I am finding that my intentions to rescue may conflict with my wanting to get a specific pyrenees. I feel a little selfish, but I'd really rather get a young pup, so straight off he/she gets used to our cat, three other young dog's and toddler. Between the three girls and alexis they are definitely a "pack". We got our other girls right when alexis was grasping "walking" so they are all used to being bumped, sat on, ruffled and doted on. They are extremely patient with her and live for her affection. Now she is getting older and understanding the importance of gentle touching.
Also though finding that there is a way to have a tigh lipped pooch would be nice also. On my furniture, clothing and nerves.
Pyr mom, in your opinion is there a way to find a pup from rescue that could have good parentage AND be tight lipped? Can you visually see the tight lip trait? If you'd rather e-mail your responses that's fine. I'm taking up lots of space on here, but I want to be extremely thorough!
Hi Michelle, still feel like 10 miles of rough road. On the coats, I LOVE the furminator, helps get out the loose undercoat and fluff that will cover the floors in giant tumbleweeds!
The double dew claw is used as a thumb. It IS breed standard and though only Ubs was shown, I have left all of mine with the dew claws intact. Being a chicken, I take my crew to the vet to have the nails clipped, all of them (dogs & nails).
I bathe & groom mine myself, using the priceless Booster Bath (one of the best investments I ever made!). Pyrs, being double coated, really don't need to be totally bathed more then every few months. A thorough brushing generally does the trick as they tend to "shed" dirt. I just towel, then air dry mine. Bear in mind, I had Labs for over 25 years, so was used to "water dogs". Pyrs and water, generally speaking, DON'T mix~grin.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO more puppies for me! Ever! Once was more than enough, thank you~lol. We had 10 heatlthy, happy, beautifully placed pups and I am pleased to stop right there. Angel was spayed before her untimely and heart breaking death (after the hurricanes), Beau is neutered and Arwen is spayed. I made certain that there would be no more pups for us. EVER.
The tight lip is a trait MY breeder has bred for (she's been breeding CH Pyrs for about 30 years now).
I think you will find that there are many very young, still puppy stage Pyrs in rescue. They (like all other breeds) end up there through no fault of their own. Simply through the ignorance of someone who got the pup because it was oh, so cute, then the new owner found they had no idea of what to expect. One of our pups actually ate the new family's floor to ceiling plantation shutters! They were very calm about it, telling me they had spares in the garage~So be prepared.
While Pyrs, like all breeds in rescue, can come from all sources including puppy mills, byb, I'm sure that there are a few from excellent lines. The problem here is that ANY breeder who is caring of their dogs will alwys demand (contractually) that any dog of any age for any reason is to be returned to them, NOT handed over to someone else, shelter, rescue, family or friend. I know that I have seen Pyrs in rescue that came to be there as a result of the death or of serious illness of the owner. Don't count resscue out as probable. All I can say is research. Both the breed and the source of the dog itself.
Pyrs might be as large as another fully grown dog of a different breed, but they are, in fact pups, with the all of a puppy's bad habits requiring time, patience and training.
Think that was all of your questions?
BTW~ the photos on photbucket of Cali & George (Pyr & Newf) are are one of my pups and her younger Newfie brother! Cali is a ceritified therapy dog and George is in training.
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