ok well we all know salty doesnt like other dogs. so when we have gone for walks, i am very alert to other people and whether they have dogs with them, etc., so i can move away from them a safe distance. i have no concerns over how i am handling salty, she is no danger to another animal while i have control of her.
its the other people i worry most about. we have lucked out so far, and the only off lead dog that came anywhere near us, was that doberman i told you guys about awhile back. but the last time i took the girls out there was a potential problem and honestly, i am nervous to go out with them again.
i try and walk the dogs when no one else is around, or when i see only 1 or 2 cars where we walk. so that it limits the chances of something happening. well last week i took them out for their walk early in the morning on a weekday figuring that would be a good time cause most people are working. no cars when we went ot the trail. on our way back to our car, i saw this dope with 2 out of control labs coming our way. they were both leashed, but this man was being dragged in every different direction by them. i went off into the woods like i usually do, and waited for them to pass, hoping and praying that they would not see us and the dogs wouldnt pull free from the guy and come barreling towards us. i have been working with salty so that she doesnt get all riled up and huffy when she sees another dog on the trail like she used to. now she will get all on guard and watch the other animals but she wont act like a lunging idiot anymore, and she wont make any noise towards them.
so anyway, the guy passes and i start to walk out of the woods, still keeping an eye on the guy and his dogs to make sure there was enough distance between us before i walked out. i noticed that by the time i walked out, he had taken his dogs off lead and they were running everywhere. so i had to stop and wait for them to get further down the trail so that even if they saw us come out and wanted to run towards us, there wa enough of a distance that i could haul a$$ towards my car and *hopefully* get the dogs into it before they caught up. not realistic i am sure because a yorkie could prolly outrun me.
i need some suggestions on what to do here. i am just about ready to stop walking, at least salty, all together. i realize that even though scout is super friendly that another dog, off lead, may not be and could start a fight with her. i am honestly not as worried about her as i am about salty cause i know a fight will start should a dog get close to salty.
so what the heck do i do ? how do i prepare myself and the girls for a fight should it happen ? am i being irresponsible taking salty out for walks even though i have her under control ? should i walk her with a basket muzzle on, so at least maybe people will see that and steer clear of us on their own, instead of me always having to steer clear of them ? is that fair to salty, who should she get attacked, has no way to defend herself ?
i am glad they are not a more active breed, but they still should get more exercise than they have been getting.
We used to have the same problem with our old Lab Kayne. He was very dog aggresive, but Dakota loves other dogs.
When we went walking with them I was always looking out for other dogs. I ended up just bringing a muzzle with me everywhere we went, just in case.
I kept it strapped to my belt loop in case I needed to put it on him fast. We never had a problem, thankfully.
Wanted to add.. I don't think its irresponsible of you to be bringing her out. If you were being irresponsible you would be letting her off her leash anyways. You have her under control and take special precautions so there isn't a problem, I think that's very responsible.
If we saw a dog off its leash with Kayne I would yell at the owner or the dog and put his muzzle on quickly. I always saw the loose dog before it got to us.
***Edited By: laredos_mom on 1/16/2007 3:38:10 PM*** Reason: x
am i being irresponsible taking salty out for walks even though i have her under control
Nope. You're not the irresponsible one, but you'll be the one who gets blamed if she fights with someone else's dog. People annoy me when they just let their dogs run free. I am a huge opponent of dog parks, too, just for that reason.
I don't think Salty should be banned from walking b/c she doesn't like other dogs. I do think that for your own mental well being, you may want to muzzle her, if nothing else it may show the dingbats who let their dogs off leash that this isn't a dog to be messed with.
You are not the irresponsible one and there is no reason you would get blamed if an unleashed or loose dog attacks you. Maybe you could carry some kind of mace substance to spray on loose dogs. Please don't deprive Salty of her walks because of other people's stupid actions. If it is a problem to handle more than one dog at a time or if you are worried about handling more than one dog if there is an attack, maybe you could take turns walking the dogs.
I wouldn't muzzle her, she has a right to defend herself.
***Edited By: barligirl on 1/16/2007 4:05:02 PM*** Reason: ADD
i would not muzzle her. she would be a sitting duck for any other dog that may choose to attack. and no protection to you, heaven forbid if someone decide to attack you. seeing a muzzled dog, may be a good thing to a mugger or worse. some places , it is illegal to carry pepper spray or mace. if thats the case. carry a small can of hairspray. it works like the other two products, but it is not against the law to carry . hopefully you never have to use it, but its good to have in the event of any kind of attack. be it dog or human.
sad that you, being a responsible dog owner, have to worry about the others who are not.
Scout, You are not doing anything wrong, and even if a dog should come running up to you, your dog will warn and if the other dog has been proparly socialized it will back off. I have my husky loose every day but when he was about 6-7 months I couldn't get him to come if he saw another dog he would just run off, I trained and trained and I can admit I still don't have 100% controle but at least 90%. Luke ran up to a dog about 3 months ago and he got bit, it is my fault!, the other dog was on a lead and not all dogs are kind to others. I exepted it was my fault and thats the risk I take every day I let luke of a lead.accidents happen all the time. But one thing is that YOU have to relax when your out with her, if you are tence she's just gonna get worse, she feels your tension and that rubs of on her and she will act more agresive. We can't go through life waiting for accidents to happen, enjoy your walks with your dogs and don't worry :)
As long as you have your dog under control, you are not being irresponsible.I too would not want to use a muzzle becouse she would have no way to defend herself from loose dogs that could be aggresive.
i am not sure if mace or pepper spray is illegal in my town. i can easily find that out though and carry it if it isn't. or i can buy one of those tiny cans of hairspray that they sell for travelers and use that like dusty suggested.
i don't care for the muzzle idea either, because if an aggressive dog does come at her, it isnt fair she cant defend herself. but if it is something i should do, to keep myself out of a lawsuit, then i would. it would kinda suck in a way because she is people friendly, and people do stop occasionally to talk and pet them, and with that muzzle on i could just imagine the looks i would get and people may be unneccesarily afraid of her.
You are definitely being responsible. Too many people just let their dogs run free. Muzzling her won't really help because if she ever does bite when she has no muzzle on, then because she wore a muzzle once, people might use that against her. Salty deserves to be walked just like any other dog. Its the other people who are irresponsible.
***Edited By: rescuepups! on 9/3/2007 10:16:00 PM*** Reason: *
I would do what an above poster said. Yell at the other dog's owner and warn them your dog doesn't like other dogs. I would never use a muzzle on one of my dogs on a walk. I do sometimes use them inside to help teach my dogs not to bark at every little thing. Does where you walk have a leash law? Maybe you could remind other owners of this.