Alright so it's been a couple years since we've had a dog in our house and we are feeling ready to welcome another puppy into our home. Over the years we've had several dogs and have always stuck to medium-large breeds. This time we want to get a small dog that will stay small, from 8-20 pounds. Since we've neglected small breeds up to this point we don't know too much about them. I've been poking around the internet looking to educate myself but it seems like every site has something different to say! We live in a medium sized house with a small backyard. There are two young children in our house, five and seven years old so it's important that the breed is good with children. We are interested in a breed that has minimal to no shedding and it would be great if we found a dog that is hypoallergenic! If possible it would also be a huge bonus if we found a breed that doesn't require too much grooming.
I know our requests may be difficult to fit however I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone has some suggestions for us because the internet reading has only confused me! I was talking to someone at a pet store the other day about Chihuahua's and they had a lot of good to say about them, what's your opinion on the breed? Finally, is there such a thing as a small breed that doesn't have too many medical problems/complications and do you suggest getting a purebred or a mix of some sort?
I really appreciate everyone's suggestions in advance! Hopefully, I'll come away with a clearer picture of what direction to look in!
Well thanks for both of your replies to dallas i'm definitely not a fan of bulldogs but I understand where you're coming from when you suggest a better built dog. What are some terrier types that would be good? Do you know of any good sites to read up on terrier breeds?
To Wiley why don't you approve of mixes? We had a larger breed mix in the past who speaking of terrier had some in him and he was an incredible pet all around. I had considered beagles in my search but not everyone in the house agreed with me!
Just today I stumbled upon a Chorkie (Chihuahua/Yorkie) and Chi-Pin (Chihuahua/Min-Pin) which looked like an amazing breed. It seemed much sturdier than just a Chihuahua however I read that Min-Pins are really difficult to train and aren't great with children..can anyone confirm that? While on the topic of training are smaller dogs harder to train in general compared to larger ones?
First off, you're not going to find a dog that's completely hypoallergenic.. though you might find a few breeds that might cause turmoil in the allergy department a little less frequently.
My little sister, whom is now 11 but was barely 10 at the time.. had a Shih Tzu that I bought her for her birthday. They are the most loving and loyal dogs you'll ever come across. If you have small children that you want to bond with the dog.. I would highly suggest a Shih Tzu. However, they are long haired dogs.. and if you don't keep them groomed they are moderate shedders.
I might also suggest a toy poodle. They are good with kids, and also from what I've heard a little easier on the allergies.. but everybodys allergies are different.
Thanks Halos I had heard Shih Tzu were great dogs however the grooming part was a turn off. I've never had to worry about dog grooming in the past with our previous dogs but is it true it's as expensive as it seems? How often do Shih Tzu's need to be groomed and have their hair cut and how much does an average visit cost?
I was looking around at the different breeds of Terriers online and founds these breeds attractive:
That was really a good question and I will try to answer your question. Mix breed dogs that are in the PET STORES, paper, Internet or elsewhere advertised are nothing more then two dogs put together and breed just to sell the pups.
Please don't get me wrong, I love all dogs, mixed or pure breed. My son has a mixed of NewFoundland, flat coat retriever we think (from a shelter)and he is a wonderful dog. It doesn't matter to me BUT what is happening behind the curtain is what needs to be shown.
They are being breed only to line the pockets of the greedy breeders. Please bare in mind that 5 millions dogs per year are killed in the shelters because of all the poor practises of bad breeding and accidentally breeding.
Since we have this horrible problem with all the poor babies that are being killed there shouldn't be more added to this.
When paying allot of money for a dog it should be from healthy parents. Tests on the dogs should be done to make sure you are getting a healthy puppy. This is the reason for the high price. Now when back yard breeders (BYB) or puppy mills are breeding they do not test. Most likely you will get a sick puppy. The do not waste the time or money to test the dogs. The conditions the dogs are living in is horrible and they are asking the same high price.
A good breeder that tests and shows their dogs are trying to better the breed. Not trying to just make more puppies. They are breeding the best of the best and this makes a better puppy.
Now when buying a mixed breed dog you have no idea what type of dog you will be getting. They can not guarantee they will not shed, they can not tell you what kind of temperament they will have. They are asking the same price for a dog that has been tested and guaranteed to be healthy.
Another point is that just because someone is breeding say only pugs and beagles and are not locked up in cages and are running around in the house is still not good.
What these people are doing is just adding to the ones in the shelter dying. Again no tests are being done, they are only breeding for the money not for the love of the dogs.
In my good faith I could never breed unless it was only to improve the breed. I also would have to move in with the pup and it's new family! J/K
If everyone understood this the shelters would be empty.
I tried to answer and I'm sure I will add to this as I think about it. Others on this forum also have great advice about mixed breeding.
I have to add that BYB and puppy mills also breed pure breeds. Just not tested and healthy ones. They are also pumping out way to many puppies a year just for the blood money.
All dogs from petstores are from BYB or puppy mills.
Being an owner of two Miniatures Schnauzers, I'd recommend them of course. LOL. They dont shed, but occasional grooming is needed so they dont matt, and they need to be taken to the groomers. Though it is very easy to do yourself, I've been doing my two for a few years now and it's soo easy and rewarding, knowing your little guy isnt stuck in a cage for a few hours before he is worked on.
Terriers in general can be fiesty and stubborn. But they are also very loving and love children (if raised with them). Most also can be barkers, but again, training it a young age can stop this.
Wow Wiley thanks for the break down! I didn't know people were doing such a thing and although I live up in Canada I don't doubt that it isn't happening in some of the cities here. I was oblivious to it because the majority of the adds I have seen listed that the parents were on site and that they had good temperaments... however I suppose there's no way to truly tell whether that's true or not. Is there paper work that can be presented for the parents to confirm whether they are purebred or not?
To Merico Schnauzers I assumed needed a great deal of grooming. When you say occasional grooming on a weekly or monthly basic how often do you have to brush them? I assume it's much lighter on the bank account to learn how to groom them yourself but how much of a monthly expense is it to take them to get it done professionally? How often do they need a cut?
YES PAPER WORK FOR A PURE BREED BUT No paper work to make sure it is a good breeder. You just have to check each breeder out and visit their home. It sounds funny but you will be so very happy when you get your healthy pup. The breeder will also help you with any questions you have after you take the pup home. You will have fun finding the best breeder out their and if you have any questions please feel free to ask because we (TP) will help you.
When you decide what breed you want go to AKC web site and you can find a good breeder there.
You can also go to the shelter and bring home a baby and save it's life.
A good breeder will also take back the pup if something comes up and you are unable to take care of it. This way the pup will never end up in the shelter.
The paper work is called AKC registered.
***Edited By: WileyBlaze on 9/8/2007 5:29:19 PM*** Reason: add
What kind of paper work do I ask to see? How do you suggest finding a good breeder. Do you think it's safe to find local ads off the internet and out of the paper or are there other ways to find the breeders in your area?
In search of a small family dog who's good with small children, has minimal shedding, and minimal grooming....any suggestions? Let me know!
Hi there, I'm a breeder and to answer your question, yes there is a way to tell.
Pedigree dogs (pure bred) come with AKC(American Kennel Club) or CKC (Canadian Kennel Club) Papers. True breeders do what is called "testing" on their dogs. ALL BREEDS have inherent problems. You can read about some of this at
True breeders do have their dogs on site, they offer a load of guarantees, they educate you, they speak to you and they invite you to visit. Breeders definitely give copies of testing certifications to their clients.
IF you are interested in a pedigree dog, perhaps a friend can refer you to someone, someone you know, a co worker etc...
The one thing about a mix is they have problems too. Again, ALL BREEDS have problems and when you mix a breed, you start to deal with multiple problems.
If you are looking for a wonderful pet, perhaps you can go to a rescue shelter in your area and discuss with them a puppy. No doubt they will have something you all fall in love with.
The other thing you can do is go to the AKC web site and research each breed you are thinking about. Then do a google search on that breed you may have interest in and read more about it.
I wouldn't buy off the Internet and I'm sure some of the breeders on this forum will yell at me for this but it is kinda like that joke when talking to someone on line you think they are a good looking person and sent you a picture of a healthy attractive person and here they are 1500 lbs and a pervert scratching their butt! LOL
In my opinion, Chihuahuas are good for children as long as the children are respectful. However, for one, they shed - I was holding one and had a black dress on and it was covered with hair. Secondly, they cannot be left alone for more than 2 hours. In that respect, they are high maintenance. Small breeds in general are harder to housetrain only because what they consider as their den is smaller than what a larger breed considers their den. And they can fit into smaller places I guess! They are also a little yappier; like they feel they have to make up for their size. If you wanted a small breed I would suggest a Bichon Frise or a Shih-tzu. With respect to medium breeds, I would strongly suggest a Wheaton Terrier. They are excellent with kids and retain their puppy attitude throughout adulthood. They are nonshedding and grow to about 30-40 pounds. They are the least aggressive of the terriers and they are playful, friendly and active - you can go jogging with them! But be warned, when you meet a Wheaton, you are in for a lot of kisses! I have never met a Wheaton that didn't greet me with so much love and kisses. Wheatons need firm but consistent training as they tend to be independent and they don't seem to like doing things that they deem silly. However, that would be their only shortcoming in my opinion. They love kids and will also bark when someone approaches the home.
That said, a bulldog is an excellent dog for kids as they are gentle, loyal and affectionate. I love the bulldog as he looks mean and vicious but really he's a laid back friendly type of guy. They may be hard to train but once he knows what you want, he will know it forever. The trainer at the obedience school where I took my dog trains bullies and pugs and her bullies were the gentlest sweetest and most polite guys I've ever met! (of humans and dogs!) Bulldogs are not active dogs though and they overheat easily. If you choose the bulldog, make sure that you get one from a reputable breeder. They are expensive as they require C-sections when they give birth, Some breeders breed the olde english bulldogge which doesn't require C-sections and are more active as they don't have the respiratory problems the bulldog has (due to mushed-in snout).
Anyway, let us know what you get and how it goes!
In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semi human. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog. ~Edward Hoagland
I do think there are exceptions to every rule though.
I think what should also be said is that a true breeder is going to have a wait list for puppies and not necessarily need the net for clients. Be willing to wait, be willing if you find a breeder you are interested in coming back and privately asking for help (no websites allowed on the forum).
There is a way to find a really good breeder even if that person is not in your area. It's possible!!! Just on this forum I have met some really good breeders I would refer someone to because I know how great they are, they do not live close to me. It's the way in which you go about it.
OH yes there maybe a waiting list. This way everyone can get ready! If you are on a list you surly know you have a great breeder!
When I was going to add a pup for Wiley the breeder I found would not have pups until the next year. That was no big deal for me because time just goes by way to fast anyway.
I was checking the shelters and had no luck for a pup at the time. Then my daughter did find a pup at the shelter and for me that was better yet! I paid the same and had the puppy mill problems (she was from a puppy mill bust) but she lived and I saved her life.
A great breeder will even be able to help you select the right dog for you. Say you are living in a one bedroom apt and wanted a husky. A great husky breeder wouldn't let you have one. Instead point you in the right direction of a dog that would work like a chi or pug.
you're right Wiley. And that's because a true breeder is not in it for the $$$ but rather for the love of the breed, the betterment of the breed and does whatever it takes to ensure their pups are properly placed, always taking the pup back if there is a problem. It's a responsibility to do this, a conviction, and a true passion of labor and love.