First of all, my apologies, I mixed hookworms with whipworms. It does take 3 days in a row of panacur, which IS fenbendazole to kill hooks, but it only takes one dose to kill whipworms, which apparently nobody seems to be aware of this. Dr. Jerry Vanek has many, many posts informing about the use of dewormers. Here is just one attesting to the one day use for whips- http://www.sleddogcentral.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5189&FORUM_ID=6&CAT_ID=4&Topic_Title=Generic+Dewormer&Forum_Title=Health%3A+General I believe it is about the third post down. Second of all, if your friend does not have a worming program in place then I can assure you ALL of her dogs have hookworms by now. Considering how long it takes a hookworm to mature, I would say this puppy had the worms far before she was even born, which is disgusting. All breeders know, worm, worm, worm. I don't care how clean you think you are, most puppies are born with worms.
Pen2- Actually not only are there wormers perfectly safe to use in 2 week old puppies even at small weights, they SHOULD be wormed starting at 2 weeks anyhow. It is perfectly normal, accepted, and practiced to worm puppies beginning at 2 weeks of age with pyrantel pamoate, also know as Nemex, also known as Strongid, and what ever other many brand names out there. And this takes care of hooks too.
***Edited By: luvmydoxys on 5/7/2008 2:04:44 PM*** Reason: add on
ok I talked with her for a second today did not get to ask much as her mom was rushed to the hospital.But she did say the vet told her to feed eggs and grits.The puppy is still alive.I am pretty sure she said she had to worm her for the next 8 weeks.This is my kids dads girlfriend.My dogs are not around her home.I do not visit.My kids do.So what precautions do i need to talk to them about when going to her house on there dads weekends.I personally would not have that many dogs myself but some people.She did not intend on this dog haveing puppies someones dog come to her dog thats why she has no idea what the dad is.She just had a litter of boxer mix with labs she thinks and I helped find all them homes thank gosh.Now she said her other chihauhua is pregnant too.She takes them to the vet but I jsut dont think she worms them as there older but I might be wrong.My middle child has had worms before and I wondered where they come from as I keep everything pretty clean.Do u think maybe she got from there? She is a animal lover so she plays with all of them.thanks for trying to help me help her
Great post as usual Abbylynne. I do not mess with the Nemex either. Panacur is a more broad spectrum wormer, safe for females in whelp, puppies, older dogs etc. So this is what I keep on hand for my wormer for everyone. Also keep Albon on hand.
Dolphin...unfortunately, it sound as though she is not the type peron who can handle that many dogs. She seems to have alot of 'accidents' 'sisnt know she was pregnant' 'didnt know she was in heat' going on over there. Breeder in denial?
People are like slinky's, not really good for much. But its still fun to push them down the stairs.
Pen - I wasn't trying to be a know it all... there is so much technical stuff involved that I often make similar mistakes - just wanted to make sure you know I wasn't trying to be witchy... I respect that you know quite a bit as a breeder.
ilovemybug - It's also possible they were either using the wrong wormer, or just hadn't wormed in the last week or two. Puppies pick worms up REALLY easily. Every breeder will send a puppy home with worms at some point in their breeding career. We can't control mother nature, and honestly, if your breeder is running full fecal panels on every individual puppy (smear, float, and Giardia antigen test) then you're probably going to pay a small fortune for your puppy OR they are giving their puppies away. I check a fecal on one puppy from the litter - but really, it's a waste of time to check fecals while you're worming. To get an accurate test result you need to check a stool 2 weeks after the last worming was done, and not while you're worming again. Since most vets and breeders recommend worming every 2-3 weeks from 2-10 weeks, that means 12 weeks is really the earliest that a fecal is worth much AND you should probably worm again shortly after that anyway.
I WAS using a vet that was making me run fecals anyway... my current vet basically flat out told me it was a waste of my money and a waste of their time. With puppies, unless they have loose stools with blood and you're not covering all kinds of worms, there is very little point in running fecals until after 12 weeks. You should be preventatively worming them anyway. They can pick something up during your first trip to Petco, or to the vet. The only way to prevent a puppy from getting parasites is to never let it's feet touch the ground other than on completely sterilized surfaces... and the downfall of that is that you're not socializing the puppy well if you take that approach.
Just wanted to clarify that having a puppies with worms isn't a sign of a bad breeder automatically. If it's a really severe case and your vet is pretty sure that the puppy has had them for quite a while, that is another story!