Trying to find a dog food that will meet all the needs of 4 dogs is becoming virtually impossible. I finally thought I hit the jackpot when the 4 of them decided that Bil-Jac was the greatest thing they ever ate. So for a year or so they have all been satisfied with that. Me? Not entirely crazy about their choice but they seemed happy so I was. Well now their choice is something I am basically trying very hard to refuse to feed them however I am losing. I asked DH to pick up dog food because they were just about out and I knew I would have no time to stop and pick some up for them before they ran out. So he comes home with Purina Dog Chow
I told him that we were not going to feed that to them, for a variety of reasons, and asked him to return it. Unbeknownst to me the store would not take it back, he lost the receipt for it, so he started feeding it to them. Well I didn't know he had been feeding it to them until I went to feed them their old food and they wouldn't touch it. So DH, very happy with his choice of food, tells me he has been feeding the dog chow to them and they have been scarfing it up like candy. So I said fine, you can feed your dog that but I will go buy something else for my 3. Basically figuring they just got tired of the same old stuff and wanted a change. Keeping in mind the foods I already know they won't touch, and Salty's special protein requirement, I go to the pet store and make the best selection I could. They won't touch the new food. They want to eat the dog chow. Even with people food mixed into it, they will not touch the new food I bought.
I feel like I am poisoning them with each bowl of food I feed them. My husband's happy because the bag of dog chow is half the price of what they were eating. Should I just ride this out and when the bag is finished give them no other option than what they were eating? Or should I just give up and let them eat what they like even though I feel like I am murdernig them by feeding it to them ?
I don't think it is good food, but like was said, dogs have lived on it for years. If you dogs are doing well on it, then continue to feed it. If you are finding that they start have skin problem, dull coats, etc. then try to change again.
Dogs can only be so picky, if you allow them to tell you want they want you have this problem. Most dogs will not starve themselves. put it down, if they don't eat it, pick it up. They will start to eat just about anything you want them to in a couple of days. I have always found a little bit of canned food works wonders. I use one teaspoon in my dogs kibble, and mix really well.
As far as the old foods, many dogs live normal healthy lives on the stuff. I know of dogs whos do not do well on the expensive stuff, so it all goes hand and hand. I personally choose not to feed my show dogs anything buy Innova, but another breeder i got a puppy from swears by purina one. The puppy looked great, and her show dogs look great, so it is a tuff battle to win lol
you can be nice and mix the dog chow with the "good" food gradually until it is all gone. might confuse them long enough to get used to their old food again. But then again, since you are the one who decides what they eat, if they got a problem with it, well... tough. what choice do they really have other then to go on a hunger strike for few days?
The essence of hypocrisy is the tendency to make an exception of oneself.
And how much longer those dogs might have lived if not fed purina no one knows, its crap, filled with more crap. It has tested positive for phenobarbital, you know the drug they use to euth animals, I wonder how it gets in there? Perhaps from rendered animals?
Personally I would get them the Bil-Jac and put it in their bowls leave them down for ten minutes, if they eat great, if not try again later that night, bottom line no dog will allow itself to starve.
I do have to say that I wouldnt feed Bil-Jac either, by-products and corn meal just dont sound that good, IMO.
Barligirl, so you feed your dogs crap, and you justify if by "the environments toxic"??? Do you allow your dogs to frolic in sewers as well? Personally I dont care if the "environments toxic" I choose not to allow my dogs to ingest even more crap because I am too cheap to buy quality food. But if where you live is that toxic I am sure as hell glad I dont live where you do.
Im not thrilled with Bil-Jac either but Salty has to eat something that is low in protein or she starts with her kidney issues. There are only a handful, SMALL handful, of senior foods out there that are low in protein and she refuses to eat Wellness and the Blue Buffalo. So I'm left with even fewer options for her.
I read on another list how the "natural Flavor" that is put into dog foods is whatever animals POOP they mix in the food. Well the dog chow has that "natural flavor" in it and that just skeeves me out. My dogs that have long since passed grew up eating Purina One and Iams. They lived very long lives - 16.5 yrs on that food but I don't believe those products are what they were 15 years ago. I had cats that lived to 19 also on Whiskas and Friskies but knowing more about food now then i did, I avoid those foods as well.
Thanks everyone for your input. after reading your suggestions I think I will ride this bag out and then give them no further options. They are tough though and will refuse to eat for days, and I mean days, when they don't like something. They do have a stronger will then I do lol.
I looked at California Naturals and for some reason I had to rule it out. The protein content is fine, I would prefer it lower like 18 % but its better than most of the senior foods out there. Does it contain Lamb? Lamb is the only other thing Salty cannot have as she is allergic to it. Took me awhile to figure that out and once I eliminated Lamb from her diet she stopped having ear infections. Before that she constantly had bad ear infections and no medicine out there would clear it up. So I avoid Lamb at all costs.
Diamond Lite sounds like the ideal protein content for her but I have never seen it in any pet store I have been in. I will google it and see if there is a retailer around here.
No,I don't give my dogs distilled water. It was suggested that I give the cats distilled water since Fox had major Urinary Stone issues and was blocking every other month for a long while. I started to give it to him and then stopped. Instead now he eats $3.00 a LB cat food from the vets and that (knock on wood) has kept him issue free for years now.
Taste of the Wild is way too high in protein for my guys. That food is the same as a grain free diet isn't it? Or am I thinking of another food ? I was feeding EVO for a long while years ago but I wasn't convinced it made any difference for them VS other grain foods. Other than Scout lost a good deal of weight on it.
Ok I checked out the Diamond Lite and it is a Lamb based food so thats out =(
I looked up California Natural and I don't know why I ruled that out unless the store I was in only carried their Lamb formula. but I did see they have a low fat diet that is Chicken and Rice and also a Herring and sweet potatoe formula and both are 21% protein which I think we can deal with. DH has a job interview at a place that sells California Natural so I'll ask him to pick up a bag of it on his way out. I think I'll have him buy the low fat formula since Thunder could use to lose a few pounds.
Ruffian i never fed a senior diet to my dogs either. My golden lived to 16 eating Iams adult but he didn't have the normal old dog issues either. Had he had them I probably would've fed a senior food.
Keep your fingers crossed that they will all eat this. The little dog Max has his own special little dog food so having 2 different foods in the house is ok. If I have to stock three different kinds of food to keep everyone happy I might have to blow my brains out lol.
I know this is off topic, but still has to do with dog food issues. Has anyone used 4 Health dog food. My sister has started her dogs on it. She buys it at Tractor Supply and I have read some about it, but would like any input from you guys that I can get. Thanks in advance for any input on this dog food. We feed Hunter Blue Buffalo and are satisfied with it, but just wonder how good the 4 Health is for my "fur-neices"
Sometimes, we just have to put on our "Big Girl Panties" and deal with it!"
Only brand is 4 Health Manufacture their own foods in specially designed kitchen. Only supplier is Mountain People's Warehouse. Meat is from a local USDA approved Butcher/meat packer. Products do not contain gluten or rice protein. Products are from one US supplier who does not import from outside the US They do not private label for other companies Privately owned company.
This was all I could find about it. I looked on Diamonds website and did not see it listed there. One of the googles gave me a link to a discussion on the Petfinder website where someone asked the same question and they were told to stick with the Blue buffalo because the 4 Health was a new product and they didn't think highly of Diamond dog food either.
Do you have a link to the food itself where there is an ingredient list?
Okay thanks, I was trying to get my sis to get Blue Buffalo for her girls, maybe if she reads the replys here, she will change her brand. Any suggestions for her on a brand as good as Blue Buffalo that may not be as expensive. She has 3 human kids too, so I would like to have a couple of suggestions that would be good for the girls, and not break her bank.
Sometimes, we just have to put on our "Big Girl Panties" and deal with it!"