I am dead serious. A friend of mine has Pits that he competes with in weight pulling. His dogs are his babies 100% and he does it simply because his dogs enjoy it. Trust me, I have seen them they are so excited about doing it. They act like Huskies getting ready to pull a sled. Anyway, he just got a new pit full grown and the dog is 20 pounds, and he has another one coming in about two months that will be 18 pounds. They are very healthy and proprtioned correctly. Super friendly dogs. They are registered with the APBR. Apparently, people have been "working" on this for a long time. They have been breeding them down, such as many breeds, even my poms, the thought behind this is, the pit bull that so many love without the size and strength that so many people are scared of. They do not want to completely change pit bulls but they want to make an 'alternative' to those people who want one but are not allowed to have one. I think it is a great idea myself. I bet everyone would be alot less afraid of a 20 pound pit than a 65 pound one? Just as long as they keep them true to their breed and do not make all pits small. What do you think?
Making mini dogs brings a host of health problems, like enlarged hearts, blood suger requirements etc... I agree that the smaller size would be less threatening. Maybe even Border Collie Babe might like it. Stretch...
If the can keep the health and tempermant good, I say go for it. But I hope only GOOD breeders are doing this. Personnally, I love the looks of APBT. If they were smaller I might get my Daughter one someday.
I think out of all dog breeds, pits are the cutest when they are puppies. If I saw a pit that was THAT small I would probably go into shock from all the cuteness! lol :) I think it's kind of cool too....
Personally i like the big ones. I have a pit right now who full grown wont get over 25 lbs. She was malnourished as a puppy and was pushed of by the mother and the owner didnt now how to care for it. So they dropped it of at the shelter. A friend of mine whoe worked there called me and i went and got her.
Smaller Pit Bulls are not considered mini. Pit Bulls were originally bred as smaller dogs. In fact most game bred dogs are between 20-40 lbs thin and racy with narrow heads and the terrier in them is more prominent. Whereas the larger bred Pit Bulls may be small but very stocky and weigh 50-80lbs strains of the Bull Terrier are prominent and then there are some even larger that are said to be strains of BullMastiffs. As far as weight pulling it's very common it has been for a very long time. Truly there is no such thing as a mini Pit Bull. Here's a great website that entails the history of the American Pit Bull Terrier. http://www.workingpitbull.com/aboutpits2.htm
I have to go with GinaH on this one! There is no such thing as a mini Pit Bull, a breeder claiming this is either ignorant or trying to make $$ by selling "minis" which I've seen before. I wouldn't buy from some one trying to sell you a "mini Pit Bull" and wouldn't buy an APBR dog period, as they are an open registry not only allowing bybs to register but promoting them. Send us your money well send you registration for your "purebred" (or not) Pit Bull. Pit Bulls are between 25-55lbs on average and you see more in the 30-45lbs range but being smaller or a little bigger isn't rare as its about proportion and conformation regardless of size. People have been "working" on it for a long time centuries actually. But then people came in and mixed them and bred them UP, not down. A 65lbs dog is big (even for a male) and would probably be threatening, my friend has one about 10lbs lighter and even he is built big and looks intimidating, breeing for size small or large is wrong and not what responsible breeders are doing. Its true that breeding smaller dogs causes health problems, but thats if you're breeding for size and not the natural size occurance of 20-25lbs dogs. There was a female at our show who was 20lbs and a hell of a pulling dog, she's now an ACE and her parents were bigger she just happened to be small, really tiny, cute thing. She ACE'd out quick, I think she took most weight pulled per body Lb that show and said she was doing better then he sire who was already an ACE. One of my females weights 30lbs (on average, tech 28lbs at the moment) her sire is 55lbs her dam is 45lbs, she just smaller then they are and not selectivly bred down. Natural occurance. Thats the case with most Pit Bulls and you won't find health problems. Its not anything new or rare there are many Pit Bulls that are in the 20lbs range thats what the class 35lbs and under is for, the itty bitty dogs. I tried buying one from the same breeder I got Ven from but he wouldn't come off her!! She probably would have been 25lbs full grown. Then a breeding took place between a 20lbs female and a 30lbs male and I wanted one of those, the breeding didn't take!!! GRRRR Oh and I almost forgot another between a 20 and 30 pounder only 2 pups were born and each breeder got one, so I guess I'm not destined to have a small dog, of course in that last litter one of the pups turned out at least 35lbs so you never know what you are going to get. They can be bigger or smaller then there parents. The smallest parent I've got a pupppy from was Val's dam who's 28lbs. But Val is 33lbs her sire is about 50lbs. I'm not sure what is so unbelievable?????????
I said they were mini, the breeder does not claim them to be. I have just never seen a pit under 20 pounds full grown. They are not typically small around here. He has pups that average 15-22 pounds in every litter. He is a well respected breeder, He cares wonderfully for all of his dogs. As far as the weight pulling, I have seen it and don't have anything against it. I only mentioned it so as to let you all know how much my friend cares for his dogs. He is going to get his new little dogs into weight pulling too.
Its different if he doesn't call them mini, but I was just putting the word out about breeders who call them mini to make sales like tea cup poodles. So if he's a responsible breeder and respected, what up with his dogs? Why the paperwork problems and registering with a sham like the APBR? Thats like those respectable breeders with their ACA and CKC dogs instead of AKC, I don't understand a responsible breeder who'd chose none quality breeding stock to build on and a sham register to register under. I'm not trying to attack this breeder, but it really doesn't add up for me at least.
I have to find out from my friend(I do not see him until Wednesday) but I know that HIS pits are registered APBR, well at least most of them are. He got most of them for the dog, not the registry. (He doesn't breed) To be honest with you, I just assumed they were all registered with that, Mostly because I didn't think Pits could be registered with AKC. I will find out what the small pits are and what the parents are registered with.
They dogs in his litters average 15-22lbs but he doesn't breed? Now I'm more then confused. Is the breeder and your friend two seperate people? Sorry if I'm bugging you...lol I know if your friend just got them for the dog/pets then he wouldn't care what register they were. You're correct the AKC doesn't recognize pits, (they do American Staffordshire Terriers) the UKC does and the ADBA is the registery just for APBTs. You see a lot of dual registered AKC/UKC Pit Bulls though, these are AST that have been registered with the UKC as Pit Bulls since the AKC wont allow it the other way around.
That is what the breeders dog are registered under!!!ADBA, I am sorry I am clueless with pit registeries. But when you wrote it I remembered. My friend and the breeder are two seperate people. My friend has some pits that are apbr registered but it is the adba that the small ones are with. My friend DOES NOT breed his pits. He works full time at our shelter. He also has a soft spot for rescuing kittens!! lol He has pictures of his "big bad pits" cuddling a 4 week old kitten. It is hilarious. Sorry for confusing you. I have been sick for a week now and don't always get everything said right! Sorry! lol
Thats pretty cool, I can't wait to see if you get some pics up. I'm still kicking myself for not taking pics of some of the small ones esp the 20lbs female, she was ripped looked puppy size but a definate adult. I'm sure we'll meet again at another show and I'll get some pics then. I thought after reading the breeder and friend were two different people but I wasn't sure. Thats great that he works at the shelter! I'm not a cat person though...lol But I am a softy for a cute, sweet kitten.
i have 8 pit bull jack russel pups. the mom is the pit and the dad is the JKT. they are "mini pits" and so adorable. does any one else have any dogs of this kind because i cant seem to find pictures of them anywhere. please let me know at firstname.lastname@example.org and i will send you some pics of them.