She drives me crazy. I have worked with her every single day this week on getting her to learn how to lay down, but it is not working. Everyone on here has given me tips on what to do, but she just does not get it. Even if I do that thing where I bring the treat to the floor and back so she has to kind of lay to get it...she won't, she'll just hunch her neck so she is still sitting but her face is on the floor. I get sooo frustrated I end up pulling her front paws down and she ends up jumping up with her back legs...so then I push her to the floor. I hate doing this, I get so frustrated with her. Now when I tell her to sit she backs away from me because she is probably afriad Im going to push her down or something. Grrrr and then my stupid bf, who is not helping he just sits on his bed playing Xbox, tells me to try this or try that. Even Ace, who knew how to lay down, is starting to see me forcing Summer to lay, so when I tell him to sit he backs away like Im going to do it to him! I always lets them do whatever they want and walk all over me, and now it's come back to kick me in the butt. They don't listen at all. I put Summer on a regular cloth collar and a regular (pretty short) cloth leash now, too, instead of her retractable lease. So now when we walk, she still pulls and tries to drag me, only now that she realizes she's not getting very far because I refuse to run all of the time, she CRIES. People have got to think Im the worst owner ever. Here I am, just trying to take Summer on a nice long walk and she pulls so hard she chokes herself (never slowing down) and crying loudly because she can't get anywhere. On Monday when I get paid she is getting a choke collar. I cannot make her lay down and I cant walk her. She is so stubborn. Her nose is in the way of walking. She smells every squirrel in the county and has to run to find them. I wish I had a yard. Sorry so long, I just needed to vent a little. =)
Sounds like you have your hands full! I'd suggest you get a gentle lead instead of a choke collar personally. And you're right, some dogs just do not get the 'down' command without difficulty, the fact that it puts the dogs in a submissive position doesn't make it any easier. I personally reward or praise if my dogs even make a move in teh right direction. You know, sometimes they kind of lower their shoulder, extend their legs.. I have also resorted to just shoving the dogs over.. but then when you have them down you make it as pleasant as possible, as soon as htey are 'down' you say 'Down, Good dog!" then give lots of loving. Simetimes if you can persuade the dog to lay down on its own and put its head in your lap so it's less stressful... I don't know what all you are trying but believe me, I do feel your pain. Akitas don't do 'down' easy, believe me.
I had this same problem with Donata. When ever I would tell her "down" she wouldn't do it. She woudl flat right out refuse. So what I did is this. I put her lead on her and told her down one time, then when she didn't do it I used my foot on the leash and pull her front in down and at the same time I used my hands to to keep her read end down. Once she was down then I would give her a treat. She hated not being able to get up because my foot was holding the leash down but after a few times she got it. Now when I say down she drops down and looks at me for her treat.
Well, she's not appearing to get it, but I think the more I work with her the quicker she'll get it. My bf keeps telling me to just forget it, who cares if she doesn't know that command..but I'll be so proud of her when she gets it. I know, dorky huh. But it's just a challenge and I really want her to learn. It's like she doesn't know what I want her to do. I say "lay" "lay" and point at the floor and she just looks at me like she has no idea what I am asking. I think I get frustrated because Abby was a dream to teach tricks to. She sat, layed, gave paw, really quickly. My sister taught her "bang bang" in only a few hours. Ace was even easier than Summer. Soon enough, though...I'm going to work with her all of the time until she gets it. When I get frustrated Im going to stop because I dont want to stress her out...she is pretty "standoffish" (thats what my grandma says) and she is really only close with me.
You may have what I call the strong willed child. Sorry, I had one of those until she knew what her place was in the order of things. She would actually growl at me going down. lol She grew out of it and had gotten a lot better. With Aisha I just sort of point ant tell her down. She usually goes down first time but with her too I have had to gently push her down. Make sure the word down is used at the same time and one of you will break. lol
one thing i've done is sit down with my knees bent and have mocha on one side of my knees and a treat on the other and lure him through under my knees. when he gets to the down position i say down and give the treat. wouldn't work with a full grown great dane but with a little pug it worked.
I am having a similar problem with Sulah, except that she acts like you beat her with a stick or something. If I put my foot on the leash she will fight it for a while but eventually will go down but she usually rolls over. And then the next time you say, "down" she cringes like you just beat her. She is not highly treat motivated.
Sulah is not like that any other time. I know that she was scolded alot but she learned all of her other commands really well after I got her but she seems to hate 'down'. We tried for the CGC test and failed because she wouldn't do a down.
Acey, Donata is doing great. Thanks for asking. She didn't go away to school because she was sick for awhile but she is all better now. I still plan on sending her but not until after the new year. Chirstmas for 3 kids is all I can afford this time of year. Anyway she is doing great, is all better.
Thanks for the new ideas, I'll try anything. I got Summer when she was around 4 months old, and the lady who bred her I don't think was very nice or loving to her. It takes Summer a long time to warm up to people. She won't let anyone pet her, unless she knows them well, and she acts like she is hand shy sometimes, even though she has never been hit before (that I know of).
First, just go put your pillow over your face and SCREAM as loud as you can.... Is that better?! Now, I don't want to be like the b/f with the Xbox, sitting over here and telling you try this, but ummmm, try this!..... Try to notice when she is lying down on her own. When you can see that she is just about to settle in and lie down on the floor (or wherever) , say your Lay command, and praise & treat, as if she just did the Lay on your command. You can even do this if you walk into a room and she is already in a down position. "Lay! Good Lay!!!"