Ok haven't been around in a while but I was reading the post on the show dogs . Minniyar made a point about show dogs NOT getting their coats/ hair cut cause the coat never comes back properly ??
Can anyone tell me if this is for ALL show dogs?? Capser my Westie has been looking a little ragged LOL this week . I am was holding off on giving him a good cut till it warms up here a bit. I love the westie cut but I just would love to clean him up and shave it all off. Guess I better rethink this ?? Jubilee
I have a westie that I don't show. I had her clipped because it is easier to take care of and it also grew back soft and silky. I also between cuts have a set of combs that is used to strip. They have small teeth and when run over the coat remove the dead hair. Maybe you could find this type of comb and keep the hair looking good
Casper is almost a year old. I Groom him regularly and yes use the stripper combs around his skirt neck so on. I have clipped his back?? but not his sides or feet?? but now because I clipped his back that will throw him out of the show ring ??
Oops, double post. Well, I just called the vet and they said that it can change the texture on some dogs coat but others it doesn't. They did say if it is done repeatedly that it will change it. I guess I'm wrong but I still don't believe it, lol!
Thanks LN... You know I have brought capser to a professional groomer and she did shave his back and gave me tips on proper grooming with the strippers.... She has grroomed several show dogs and never mentioned that I should not shave him. She did know that I have future plans to show him or one of his off springs in the future. I had heard that the longer haired coat dogs like collies shouldn't be cut but not some of the terrier breeds ?? guess you learn something new everyday . Jubilee
Well Icyhound then he is in good shape yet wheew. He is one big puff ball right now as it is cold here in Iowa and he doesn't like his dog coat so I have been leaving his coat long and only brushing him out he gets a bath every other week and blow drying him these days takes forever LOL he is one big puff ball. It takes alot of patience with the strippers and he get sick of it. I was just tempted to shave him all down the other day when it took me a good 2 hrs. to brush wash and dry . I know better that to shave him but the clippers does such a nice job to his back LOL Jubilee
Well yer going to need to stop bathing him weekly and stop blow drying him. All of that breaks down the hard outer coat of a terrier.
I'd suggest joing a westie mailing group and get some advice from other terrier folks. I deal with coated breeds when ti coems to daily groming and matinence, so in only know the bascics of terriers. Plus they can critique him. Just have tough skin, critiques are not always fun.
westie coats are supposed to be very coarse and wiry to the touch, not soft and fluffy. Blow drying the coat on some breeds can really dry out the hair follicles, especially if you are using a hot air dryer (the big dryers you see on dog crates blow air, but not heated air).
Wire coats are double coats. When you shave the coat down, you make each hair the same length- when a proper coat has a shorter inner length, and longer guard hairs. Guard hairs are naturally tapered at the ends- not cut off squarely. THAT is why clipping a wire coat ruins it for show.
It's perfectly fine to have a pet clipped- and probably more desirable, as stripping is very time consuming and totally un-fun for the dog anyway.
But clipping a wire coated (or other double coated) breed's fur down will usually never allow it to grow "properly" again.
A westie is a terrier and usually has a wirey coat(harsh/crispy) When you start clipping the coat with clippers the coat will start to grow back in a softer texture, loseing the wire coat. For a pet, clipping is fine. If youve been clipping for a while, its to late to be concerned now because the coat has likely change already. A show animal is hand stripped on a regular basis right from the start. There are very few groomer that are able to hand strip/ Its just not taught because the stripping time consumming and expensive.
Thanks all for the tips. Yes Caspers hair is still wirey what I mean by fluffly is that his coat is longer right now. Both of my westies coats are double coated . It took me a while to get used to the feel. I had a pom before and was ussed to the SOFT fluffiness feel of them. I use a cool setting dryer and this is why is takes a while to dry them properly. Plus they can only sit still for short times and so I have to dry then let them run LOL and dry a little more and let them run.
Yes the stripping is very time consumming but I love brushing and working with my dogs :0) Jubilee
i'll be the 1st to admit i know nothing about the topic. i have american eskimos and you NEVER shave them down. before i knew that, i did, and snowball grew back just fine, fluffier than ever. it just doesnt seem to make logical sense that too much trimming will change the hair. like saying to many haircuts for me will eventually result in curly hair, instead of straight hair.
actually eskiegirl since you mentioned it, my hair was long when i was in high school and my early 20s.. but i got it all cut off real short and now it's long again and it's very very curly..
Think about it more like this. When a dog goes through a normal shed, it doesn't really loose much of the outer coat of longer coarse hairs, it looses the undercoat and keeps the outer coat. The outer coat is like a permanent coat that isnt' really made to grow back in over and over again, the way the undercoat does. When you shave a dog, you cut off the undercoat *and* the coarser outer coat. For most dogs, the outer coat just doesnt' grow in quite the same. Why? Who knows. Maybe because the follicles ends are flat edgged from the blade of the razor instead of being tapered and that affects when the hormones and hair root cells tell it whent o stop growing. In some cases, the shaved hair may grow back in different shade than the dog's previous color. All I know is you shouldn't shave down double coated breeds if you expect them to have the coat they're supposed to have been bred for.