Popularity leads to over breeding,which in turn leads to poor breeding practices.The dog becomes popular,more people in turn wind up giving up the animal because of the lack of education that entails taking care of this type of animal,hence the dog winds up in a shelter.
Secondly there are humans,the true monsters that want this type of dog for the wrong reasons.
I love my 2 girls Pipey and Tigger ,and will do all in my power to protect them from the true monsters-humans.
I would say 9 times out of 10 incidents that happen with these dogs is because of human error,ignorance ,or humans that make these dogs do evil acts on purpose,again this is not the dogs fault.
I think the answer to this is easy, no theory about it. I think what rednosered said is pretty much true.
1. Overbreeding, well its only common sense that overbreeding brings in more dogs because there are more of them out there abandoned and abused.
2. Reputation might be part of it, maybe not very many GOOD homes and people looking for the breed and the WRONG TYPE of people turned down. Some agencies are pretty picky who they adopt a Pit out to.
3. Availability, which goes back to overbreeding if a dog is easily accessible then its going to be very popular and easy for people to get, doens't mean they will keep the dog and not get tired of it. You see a lot of Labs and Lab mixes in the shelters, as pets who have homes, as strays, ect because their popularity is the same way.
sexcbrucelee maybe you have a good idea there, but its not really entirely true. Like I just shelled out $750 for my last pup but whatever. Yeah there are a lot cheap ones, I understand that and anybody can come up with $50-100, but what about the dogs that are like $2000 from peddlers. They are just as much part of the problem and people don't think twice about charging up their credit card or using their income tax to buy one of these dogs. And then they don't take care of them and they end up in the shelter, abandoned or dead, or neglected in a crate in the basement or tied to a tree or bred over and over again so they to can supply all the other nut jobs with $1000+ pups that don't get good homes. People try to argue that higher prices cuts back on bad homes and thats not the case, SOME bad homes, but just as many would get bad homes some assholes are attracted to higher priced dogs for the status. They tried to say expensive blue pits get better homes and blue pits NEVER end up in the shelter because they cost so much. I gave them a bunch of rescue links with blue dogs. And of course all the stories about expensive dogs or expensive blue dogs that got some crappy homes, sometimes this makes them a target like I said. They might not be readily available for some people, but for others they would and it wouldn't stop them from getting bad homes and being in shelters. The only way to do that is responsible breeding, stop peddling and if you do let a pup go screen the home and keep incontact and have enforced contracts. It seems that with American Society money is no object and people don't care how much they waste on a dog, they soon forget about all that when they don't want the dog anymore. I know a dog that cost $1000 and by the time it was 5 months old it was way in the back of the yard hidden under some trees on a big log chain, had its ears cropped too (which cost about $150), the dog was scared of everything and didn't have the stitches out of its ears and got maggots eating its ears. This was a Cane Corso, but I have many more stories about Pits because thats what I deal with mostly.
Stormy, I certainly did NOT try to start a trouble causing thread. I think I had a valid question and all of the posters answered it quite thoroughly and intelligently. I didn't see any trouble here. I don't consider a little debate, trouble.
I have NEVER intentionally started a thread to cause trouble and I resent being accused of that.
***Edited By: lalayla on 3/1/2005 12:32:06 AM*** Reason: add
I always check out the shelter in my area. Quiet suburban town, no dogfighting here. And at least 25% of them are pit bulls. I was just curious as to why that is. Not trying to say pits are bad, just wondering why there are more of them in the shelters. Maybe I should have worded it differently. I have no opinion of pit bulls, as I have only met one in my whole life. But everyone says they are great dogs and I believe them, so it seems they must be overbred, or just cant get adopted because of the reputation unscrupulous people have caused them to acquire. Whatever reasons, its sad.
Dog fighting doesn't really have much to do with why so many APBTs and mixes are in shelters, it has to do with bybs overbreeding. The population is high. What other breeds and how many did you see in the shelter? You will always see more popular breeds because their are more out there and people want them, but then they decide they don't really want them and get rid of them. You see rare breeds less often its common sense to see more popular breeds their numbers are higher. How many Pulis have you seen in the shelter? What about Pharoah Hounds, I check the shelters (online) a lot and I go to local area shelters from time to time and I've never seen either of those breeds, the less #s the less bybs and the less you'll see them. There was a time King Charles Spaniels were a little "rare" and guarded and you didn't see them in the paper or in shelters/rescues, it was very rare. Now I see them in the paper every other month and every few months one in the shelter. They are getting more popular.
True_Pits is right. Go to petfinder. Just look at the dog breed index and look at the differences in numbers between really 'popular' dogs, and rarer breeds. Also in some places it's a place to place thing. I've found there are some breeds that petfinder won't even show me results for because there aren't any anywhere near me at all, but there are some places in the states where there are tons of the same breed from popularity.
I thought that the question was very valid. I have wondered about it myself. I live in the city (Chicago) and my friend Colleen and I used to go to the shelters all of the time. There were always tons of pit mixes, shepherd mixes, and lab mixes. I did always wonder why. I dont know for sure, but I assumed that Lalayla asked the question mainly about pits because there are a lot of knowledgable people on this forum who know about pits. Every topic that has to do with pits is not going to turn into a breed bashing fest and there is nothing wrong with educating people. If everyone were to stay away from hot topics like this, nothing would ever be taught or learned. I never knew a thing about pit bulls until I came to this forum, I only knew what I heard from the media, etc. So I'm glad that I'm able to read & learn about them so I don't make stupid, uneducated stereotypes. Anyways, Im glad Lalayla asked the question because I've often wondered it.
I should also add that its not all bybs, but irresponsible pet owners too that not alter their pets. Which most of these people got their dogs from bybs in the first place. But just one of the area Pit Bull mixess I know has had 4 litters, a couple looked close to pure and the other litters you could tell were mutts they had fluffly hair but a Pit like head. Thats 4 litters that are probably going to end up as strays or in shelters, the last litter had long hair and most had black and tan markings. I only know where very few of the pups ended up but none of those are in the same home they ended up being given away and given away again, dumped off somewhere or let loose and picked up by AC. I'm sure the same goes for the rest, one (male) the people still have in the pen with the mom because they couldn't get rid of him, no doubt he'll get her pg when she comes in heat again, so there is another litter to end up in the shelter.