To all you so call (animal lovers) When you decide to breed your dog, cat or whatever think again think very hard and long go to all the **bleepety-bleep** kill shelters and rescue shelters and look at the pure breeds there and ask yourself again if you really love animals.
***Edited By: pearl on 3/31/2005 7:29:18 PM*** Reason: language
I agree with the fact that you shouldn't just be breeding every animal but people who really care about what they are doing and the puppies(or what ever animal they're breeding) that they bring into this world, they would never let their animal's offspring end up in shelters or abandond. They would take them back and either keep them themselves or find them new homes.
We are animal lovers on this site! You also shouldn't cuss. The rules clearly say to use clean language. I know you are upset but try to remember this in the future.
Oh, I don't normally play with trolls- but the flu has blessed me with a stellar mood today, so what the heck? ;)
This is one of the most assinine comments ever. I don't doubt that there may be some slightly intelligent thought buried deeply within it- but there's WAY too much flaw to catch it.
You're implying that shelters that humanely euthanize unadoptable pets are somehow more cruel than non-kill shelters, where animals can spend their lives pacing small cages until they go insane? The addition of "kill" in your sentence nullifies its effect by demonstrating your ignorance.
Furthermore- given that 60-75% of the animals in "kill" shelters and no-kill shelters alike are NOT purebred, why single out people who breed purebred animals?
I don't breed and never will, volunteer with rescue groups and shelters, but don't condemn responsible breeding. Pick your fights a little better.
Long Dogs-that's right! If you are so concerned with the shelter situation-which is a concern of all of us-breeders or not look at these facts and find out why. It's not because of breeders, as they meet a demand that is out there-its a fact. Breeders can offer insite to a history of a dog, where unfortunatley most shelters can't. But the real reason is irresponsible owners... Risk factors (this was in DOg world June 2001) Not participatitng in a dog training class 67% Infrequent vet care %66 Dog not sterilized 31% Amount of work great than expected 33% Inappropriate elimination 19% "Population attributeable risk" among reliquished dogs-done my American Human Assoc "Shelter Veterinarian Educational Program"
All of the above are faults of the owner! Not where they received the dog. Good breeders will screen for this when placing.
Once again, my message of EDUCATION rings loud and clear.
This is just the kind of "positive" discussion we need on this forum. I respect your opinion, but don't disrespect others just because they are breeders. There are a lot of responsible breeders out there who do a great job in educating their potential owners and take great responsibility for the lives they bring into the world.
***Edited By: gingerspice on 3/31/2005 8:36:43 PM*** Reason: typo
I partially agree but there are responsible breeders and most dog in shelters arent purebred.Its not completly about ego.If you have a certain breed yuo do it for the love of the breed.For example,my sister is a breeder of basenjis.She doesnt do it for profit she does it cuz she loves this breed of dog.So its ok for there to be breeding as long as it is responsible.
Wow that was just a stupid post. I'm all for respecting people and opinions, but something like that? You can bearly make it out and its nonsense.
Um breeding for ego?
Yes the purebred stats are very true it was very hard for me to find a purebred Boxer in the shelter (they are more popular now maybe it would be easier at this time) just one and she wasn't correct in temperament, a risk to adopt. Anyway there were some purebreds, most all were crosses or muts. Whether they be mutts or purebred dogs have nothing to do with responsible breeders, bybs yes and even more so irresponsible pet owners who don't fix their dogs and have accidental breedings they account for many unwanted pups. They take them stores and give them away to anybody (who will get rid of them for reasons listed by the other poster above) only to be damn fools and not learn from it again. The Rottweiler and Pit mix as well up the street have had numorous accidental litters, I can't only imagine how many pups is that like 4 litters each that I know about and the Rott had a couple big litters 9 and 13. The pit mix is in a pen with her son, yes I'm sure next heat they will probably have another "accidental litter" to end up in the shelter.
Just as well I don't see how breeding for mutts would be okay? They talk about seeing purebreds in shelters. Like 70% of dogs in shelters are mutts and yet they make no mentions of accidental litters and mutt breeders creating puggles, jugs, chi-poos, cocka-poos, labradoodles, ect, ect the list goes on.
Then again, there is some consideration to be given in trying to keep those from the shallow end of the troll gene pool from reproducing.
Great Pyrenees have excellent rescue (as do most of the known pure breds), which make every effort to rescue, foster and home the strays in shelters.
All of the "pound puppies" in our family have been mixed (and BOY were some of them REALLY mixed) breeds. Not a single pure-bred amongst them.
Can't speak for all breeders out there, but I can speak for one litter of TEN pups, 1 yr. in 7 days. Those pups have well over 100 champions in 5 generations, including the two all time top top scoring dogs and a hall of fame winner.
All are in wonderful homes and so spoiled, I wouldn't mind switching places with them . They're a little over halfway through the puppy stage when so many are dumped and are still well loved. If it's decided that they can no longer remain in their current homes, they come back to ME, at ANY age for ANY reason. I speak to the owners and keep up with them and always will.
huntersmom, I am 30 and I have had back problem since I was 21 I think my started when I was braking a filly. Lets just say I stayed on long then 8 sec. Last year I had a friend stallon staying here and the stallon ran me over :) so I have had problems with my left leg.
I think I should stay a way from horses. I have 4 so that's hard to do. This summer I am braking our 5 year old filly lets hope she will be nice to me....
wow...sorry to hear about the back problems...I would stay away from horses, myself...I love them..maybe I would just pet, love and feed them...I too have serious back problems..I worked like a mule in harness from 17 to say 37...many times 3 jobs at a time...and being a healthy strong person I lifted more then I should have many times..In my jobs...Now..I have ruptured disks and deteriorating disks in the lower spine...I wouldnt wish it on any one...So you young strong people out there...take heed...take care of your self now..the old saying goes..If I knew I would live this long I would have taken better care of my self...And lets take good care of our pets too (just to keep it pet related...lol)