My dog in college was an akc registered cocker spaniel. She was beautiful and very good tempered. We did breed her after many vet tests to insure genetic problems were not an issue. I hope I did nothing wrong. We had one litter then had her spayed. They were all sold before they were born because of her wonderful reputation. It was a terrific experience I wouldn't trade. But is this discouraged to do this? I wasn't planning on breeding Faith because I just don't think I want to do something like that with all I have on my plate. I just was curious hearing you all talk about it and hearing the term so much. THANKS.
i get confused with the backyard breeding also, but pretty much people who just keep breeding the same pet over and over and selling the pups. bet yours were adorable, im kind of partial to cockers, since i have one and i love her to death, she was given to me by one of my clients, her mom was chocolate, and dad buff, she is black with a white blaze down her chest, has the best personality, except her only draw back is she only likes a few other dogs since she was 1. she was approached once by 2 blue tick hounds and it really scared her. they were just coming to say hello, but too much, too big, all at one time. she is great with people, and kids, even loves kitties. they are just the most adorable puppies. she went to obeidence class and got her cgc and then passed her tdi so she could become a therapy dog, she visits nursing homes and seems like she really makes a difference with the elderly. lots of fun for me to see them get so excited to see her.
MIne was a petite black cocker. She was "Lady" from Lady and the Tramp all over the place for her beauty. Her name was Kelsey. She was bred to a black male with excellent pedigree and they had black and black and tan pups. They were so cute and in demand due to the wonderful nature of my little girl. I still hear about her pups and how well they are doing. We were so glad we did it. What a wonderful experience. I only wish my son could have seen it (though he wasn't even a thought yet). I really love how much he enjoys watching the birth of animals on TV. He watches NO cartoons or other tv ONLY Animal Planet's "That's My Baby". Isn't that funny? He is just glued to it then he claps and claps and says MORE. He is utterly amazed with what he sees and says "mama ---baby" over and over. SO CUTE.
BYB are breeders who indiscrimantly breed their dogs...thinking they will make a little money, and not really caring about the pups after they are sold. Good breeders alwyas do what you did...genetic testing...to increase the odds of having only healthy puppies. They also sell puppies on a spay/neuter contract or show contract...take back the dog at anytime during the dogs life...guarentee the health of the dog.....keep in touch with the new owners...those pups are like their kids. They are more for adoption than for sale. The real difference is that good breeders are responsible in their breeding practices...BYB just do it for money, or because they want their children to experience the miracle of birth...or because they were not watching their dog in heat. Sounds like you were responsible for the puppies. Also...good breeders consider first the temperment of their dogs, how well dog fits AKC standards for breed...much thought is gone into a breeding.
BYB's only care about the money going in their pocket every time they breed. They don't do health checks on their dogs, don't care whose dog they breed with, don't care about temperment and they don't care who purchases a dog from them. BYB's are not out to better a certain breed, they only ruin it.
I thought it wasnt only for the money that classified someone a byb. I remember hearing somewhere that unless you breed for the sake of improving a certain breed you where considered a byb. Of course the ones that do all the proper testings are more concerned with putting out a healthy litter, although even with the testing it is not a guanantee. I will not mention names, but i have seen numourous breeders who are considerd responsible breeders and do comform with all testing, health, guarantees, spay-neuter contracts and so on. The point i am trying to make is that they breed more than one breed, not to say more than maybe three, have a total of about 50+ dogs that they breed according to what is known to be acceptible (no more than 2 litters per and only once a year) bottom line is that they sell hundreds of puppies a year. Do you really think that the people who end up cant keeping those pups return them to the breeder or just end up in a shelter?
Dogwant: My puppies by contract, must come back to me if owner decicdes for any reason not to keep the dog. I keep in touch with the people that have my dogs, to make sure all is going well. I do not breed a lot of dogs...right now, no more than 1 litter per year. This makes it possible for me to "keep up" with the owners. I usually have a waiting list. For example, the 5 puppies I have now are already spoken for, and 3 of the next Chin litter I have are spoken for. I (knock on wood) have been lucky, and never had any problems. But I'm picky about who gets my dogs.
And by the way, the breeders i'm talking about have had a good repore with the AKC and have a long reputation of putting out many champions in the past. If you have that certain breed that they breed , rest assure that somewhere in your dogs pedigree you will find that breeders name.
Also.... "I remember hearing somewhere that unless you breed for the sake of improving a certain breed ....." That is true. After temperment, improving the breed should be the breeders number 1 concern.
Hi sunny, i know there are folks like yourself that are very responsible in how you do what you are doing. The point is that the more dogs out there the better chance of one ending up in a shelter regardless of what contract you have written.
That is true...there is always that possibility. I DO believe there should be restrictions on breeding. Including education, and mandatory voulenteer work at a shelter for all breeders. At least then we might have breeders who were a little more educated.
for a me a red flag for a back yard breeder is someone who does not do genetic testing, does not sell with a spay/neuter contract or show contract, does not have a contract to take puppies back, breeds mix breed dogs, and doesn't take puppies to the vet, or even only one of these things. they are not necessarily bad people, but have poor breeding practices.
In my mind, a backyard breeder is someone who breeds their pet quality dog. Backyard breeders cover a wide spectrum: from those who breed simply for the money to those who make many responsible decisions when breeding their dog including genetic testing, home inspections and following up with puppies that they've placed, taking back any that no longer have a suitable home. If the backyard breeder got their pet from a responsible breeder, they're probably violating the terms of their contract when they breed their pet since responsible breeders require that pets should be spayed or neutered. If they got their pet from another backyard breeder, or from a pet shop or puppy mill, then their pet is obviously of inferior quality and, again, should not be bred. Unfortunately, many people think that because their dog is "purebred" or "AKC registered" or because it comes from "champion bloodlines", it is worthy of breeding but these terms simply indicate that the parentage is known. Responsible breeders show their dogs, or they're actively involved with their dogs through obedience, agility or field trial competitions. The purpose of dog shows is to evaluate breeding stock. Responsible educate themselves about their breed and can recognize behavioral, structural or genetic faults that should not be passed on to the next generation. Backyard breeders simply don't have the experience with their breed or enough knowledge of their pet's pedigree and genetic background to make good decisions about the breeding of their dog. Humane societies and rescue organizations are filled with both mixed and purebred dogs and each year millions of unwanted pets are euthanized. These pets are the product of backyard breeders and puppy mills. Responsible breeders make a lifetime commitment to the well-being of every animal that they breed and it is rare to find a responsibly bred dog in a rescue situation. A responsible breeder maintains contact with all of their pet owners and will take back any of their dogs when they no longer have a suitable home.
from a reputable breeder the show quality puppies could be bred, they would be sold to a show home or to someone wanting to begin in breeding. the spay neuter contract would go to the pet quality puppies or a home that has no intention of showing. but, also, a person wanting to breed and show should well research what breed they want to be involved with and work with an established breeder to learn and help before they begin to breed on their own.
I essentially agree with the assesment of the rest of those who have responded as to what makes a backyard breeder; no testing, no knowledge of what constitutes a good representative of their breed, poor husbandry (concern for the well being of both parent and offspring), as well as lack of responsibility for the fate of those offspring. Allow me to play devil's advocate here for a moment. 1. A number of years ago someone I knew produced a litter of Standard Poodle puppies, there were 2 males in the litter both were outstanding one just a little more so. She kept the better of the two and he went on to win many BIS (best in show), as well as BISS (best in specialty show). The brother obtained his championship but did not like the ring. The Multi BIS, BISS male never sired a champion offspring, the "lesser" quality male went on to produce several dogs who outdid their uncle. 2.I have spent many hours beside the ring watching Poms, my breed. I have seen all too many champions who looked like eggbeaters coming and going ( incorrect, horrid movement). I saw a judge put up a gorgeous little girl in a specialty who was carrying a back leg on every turn (slipping patellas). That dog was a champion at that point. Dogs scissored and finished with no guard coat who later developed Black Skin Disease (the dog looses all of it's coat and develops a thickend black skin, this condition can not be treated). 3.The average show pom weighs between 3 and 4 pounds, male or female. When bred, females are regularly scheduled for a c-section, they are not even allowed to go into labour as they are too small to deliver their puppies naturally. Naturally they reproduce themselves. IMHO that is a slippery downhill slope. Showing your dogs has it's place but please know that there is no substitute for being able to interpret your breed standard, or being able to asses correct structure and movement yourself.
TJ : LOL Your right. It's an ethical point. I know of people who regularly chalk their dogs so they will show better (among other things). When you are trying to evaluate breeding stock, shouldn't the dog be shown and evaluated "as is" ?? If you know of a major fault in your dog, it should not even be shown. AKC is very "political". All in all..it's the responsible breeder who needs to evaluate their breeding stock because they KNOW what dogs will improve their breed.