trinity...you have just unleashed a topic not many on this site will be in favor of. Most love mix breeds, mind you...just the purposful breeding of muts when so many die each year makes most upset. I personally could not care less what everyone likes..but AKC registration is a time honored thing that should not be messed with. Why mix them if you lik the breed standrd. Good luck finding sympathisers...
I'm against it. There are plenty of mixed breed dogs in the shelter (and purebred). 3/4 of the dogs at shelters are mixed breeds, 1/4 is purebred.
Most people lately are breeding mixed breeds on purpose because of the "hybrid vigor", saying they are healthier than purebreds but lets say someone breeds a blind Labrador to a blind Poodle that makes blind puppies, right? It doesn't matter, all dogs have health issues.
I have nothing against mixed breeds but if someone purposly breeds them for all the money they can make or just for the heck of it then I am VERY against it.
Also the "breeders" are selling them for thousands of dollars, you can get a mixed breed dog at the shelter or rescue for A LOT less plus you save a life. Another thing someone can do is purchase a purebred, registered, Champion bloodlines, show quality, health tested parents, and a health guarantee for the same amount of money.
I want to breed a german sheperd and doberman but I want to make sure they are not mixed and them being AKC registered is the only way I know of to know if they are not mixed. I was going to just breed dobermans but main people have come to me wanting me to breed these 2 breeds together. I have even gotten and offer from someone saying that she will pay for the stud dog if I breed these to dog. Plus I want to donate most of the dogs to be service dogs for the united states and help dogs. Most places that train dogs for this type of thing don't take breeds unless they have some type of sheperd in them. I don't know why a doberman makes a good service dog and help dog. But this is y I am posting this.
If I were you, I would not breed these two dogs. I know you have had people show interest in possible pups, but I would almost guarantee that as soon as the pups arrive, those people will have a million and one escuses as to why they can no longer take a pup from you. I breed American Bulldogs and I have a wiating list on my pups... every time my pups arrive, there are people on my list who decide not to get a pup. (granted I generally have 20 or more on a list at a time, so placing pups is not a problem, but a mixed breeding will most likely not have people standing in line for a pup) The Doberman x Shepard cross is pretty common within shelters.. in fact, shepard crosses are probably one of the most common shelter dogs there are. Service people already aquire thier dogs from specific breeding programs or shelters, so this breeding would most likely be of no interest to them. I would leave the breeding to the proffessionals, and just love your dogs as your pets. There are so many mixes in shelters being put to sleep each day... a breeding like this would just add to the population.
***Edited By: BullyMom on 6/17/2005 11:14:36 PM*** Reason: add
In the DFW there are not that main german x doberman mix is the shelters I should now for funny I go to the shelters in the DFW at least 2 times a week just for funny to see what they have in. Also I do have a waiting list and alot of the people on the list are people who are from training orgainaztions there are about 4 peopls on the list who will being paying for pups. There will not be that main pups for sale at most 2. So as you can see people can't back out of the list because when it comes to the trainers for the service dogs they said that if I decide to breed these two breeds then they will pay me in advance. So I will have no problem getting people to take the pups.
well...dont breed them thinking that service orginizations will want them...i breed gsd's and have sought out severL SERVICE ORG'S TO DONATE TO AND ONE 1 WILL ACept a shepherd. no one not even paws for a cause will take your mixes..i tried years ago when i did rescue work...when u donaet they must come from ofa'd stock and have a several generation pedigree. And then they have their own breeding program in most cases...please dont be nieve enough to think that many will want these mutts...not many will go..and most likely will have a large litter...so if youhave reservertations one 1..what will you do with the other 8 to 10? Shephersd and dobs are great seperate breeds and best left alone...
What didn't you understand when I said I already have organizations that want the puppy's if I breed my doberman with a sheperd. I have already had a meeting with the people from the organizations. All the organiaztions want the pups but they have to be mix. The owner has asked me to keep the name of the oraganztion private cause I got word of the organiztion from a friend at the police department and she likes to go and find the pups herself and doesn't like people asking her. My friend told her about me and she has told me that she will take all the pups that I will not be selling. So as you can see I will have no problem giving the pups to a good home. She doesn't like to work witfh full bloods cause with the mix they do more stuff. Such as they have the sheperd and the doberman so she has found that that mix works best for the training for helpful dogs.
I do not who told you mixes are more capable of doing service than a purebred. first off if you want a working dog. i wouldn't use AKC paperd dogs. I would look fro dogs that have had some success in working and doing service work. Breeding a dog for specific purpose is much more complicated than putting two dogs together. getting litters that are consitently the same in abilities can take years. What exactly is the work you want the dogs to do?
The work they will be doing in helping the blind which my female doberman is already trained for and I want to try to get them into service for the police, fire department, or something along those lines. 2 of the oragnizations that won't some of the pups and they don't care if they are pure or not are the people that my doberman has worked with.
let me rephrase my first post. i would look for dogs not only from AKC papered dogs. I would look into some working registries. also, i would pick one type of work. if you want scent dogs, i would work towards that, if you want service dogs for the blind i would work towards that. I am guesing it is scent work you want the dogs for the police, and firefighters.
***Edited By: gunny on 6/18/2005 12:27:02 AM*** Reason: c
Second I live in the DFW area and know that their are not that many service dog traing places here. I had a litter of AKC Goldens Ret. five left to be service dogs. And while I was searching for these training place I saw how few were here. Also most service dogs for the blind now indays are of Lab/Golden mix, I know they use others, but the main goal is to have a dog that was not breed to gaurd, but to be a loving family member. Both GSD and Dobs are guard dog breeds.
Also from my experiance with my last litter, I know how hard it is to find good homes, and to sell the pups.
so this police training organization told you that? Why do they want to remain nameless. this all seems pretty sketchy to me. I train working dogs for sports. a protection sport called schutzhund. I know the demands of breeding a working dogs. this all just seems like a bad idea. I know that most police dogs are GSD'S or Malinois for bite dogs and Blood hounds and labs for scent work. the u.s customs uses labs and beagles. the only goverment agency i know goes for mixed breeds is Lackland Air force base.
I never said that the organizations were in the DFW area and just because GSD and dobies are protrayed as guard dogs that doesn't mean they are. Right now we have a blind room mate who has been my friend and my mother for about 15 years and when the organization which she will be getting her dog from since me a package giving me promisen to use my dog to help my blind room mate train to use the help of a dog and so she can get use to how the dog responds to everything but yet she will still have to work at the organization for 2 years to train and get use to the dog she will be with.
I think you are in for a rude awakening, but you will find out soon enough.
also, most if not all service dog places have a waiting list, and just because a friend donates a dog, doesnt move you up on that list. So your friend may not even get one of your pups. And if anyone is an idiot it's you, there is no reason to breed these to dog, other than your own selfish motives. I also think your full of it.
***Edited By: dallasgoldens on 6/18/2005 12:47:13 AM*** Reason: /