Hi everyone, I'm new here and I have a sad story to tell and need some advice..my mother and father had a chihuahua I'm guessing it was atleast 5 years old, they didn't have it for that long, they got it from a friend of the family who named him Chico. They only had him for almost a year but they've had chihuahua's before and they loved him. The dog was mainly an inside dog but sometimes in nice weather they would put him in the backyard which was very small but had a dog house and room to walk around. Well anyways, a couple weeks ago my father heard Chico cry really loud so he went out there to see what was happening and he saw a pit bull had jumped over a fence and grabbed ahold of Chico's neck. The owner happened to be out in his yard so he immediately came over and he hit the pit bull with a shovel so he could let Chico go but he didn't stop till Chico was dead. My parents are seniors and they were horrified. The owner promised he would get my parents another chihuahua and told them that his sister had a litter of pups and they could have one, I'm starting to believe this was a lie..he hasn't said anything about the pups since then and my parents are still sad and depressed because of what happened to Chico. I know that they would really appreciate another dog but they are both seniors in there 60's and I doubt they want to be involved with the law and trying to sue the guy. Would that be the only way to get them a Chi or would we have to get one ourselves? I didn't even want them to have another dog because of the pit bull is STILL THERE i would think they would put him to sleep or something because he is aggresive to dogs obviously. I dont have anything against pit bulls in general but this pit killed my parents dog. I would really appreciate any input/suggestions. Thanks
If every dog that was aggressive to other dogs was put to sleep, there'd be an awful lot of euthanized dogs out there in the world. Even small dogs like terriers can be extremely dog aggressive. Some dogs just don't do well wtih other dogs, its afact of life. IT doesn't make them bad dogs, theyr'e just dogs that do best with no other dogs around.
Now that said, I definitely think that your parents are in the right for wanting some kind of reparation for the loss of their dog. THey should get in touch wtih the other dog owner and ask waht's up with the chihuahua puppy they were promised. Also ask what they are doing to ensure that the dog doesn't jump the fence again.. are they doing anythign to raise the fence height? or whatever? A talk wtih animal control may also be appropriate.
Could the authorities do anything? The pit bull was fenced in properly, he just happened to jump on some things to get over it. What would they do to the owner? My parents are just upset and grieving over their loss and that the owner doesn't care to replace their dog like he said he would. The owner said that the dog never showed signs of aggression before towards dogs or people so I guess this was the first time..I just want my parents to be comfortable and happy and not worrying about the pit next door so we will probably report this but i dont think they will make him get them a new dog which is sad because thats the least he can do.
The fence is pretty high already! The pit jumped on some tires and a trash can to get over the fence so he was pretty determined..All of the stuff is moved away from the fence so there is not a high risk of him jumping over it again if so i would be worried for my parents saftey as well. They dont want to get anyone in trouble, they just want another dog and to not have to worry about the pit.
***Edited By: Dymond7 on 7/5/2005 11:14:38 PM*** Reason: spell
Honestly, I feel it needs to be reported. I don't want to see any dog run the risk of being put to sleep, but the honest truth is no one knows if the owner is telling the truth about the dog never being agressive. Just having this situation documented would be helpful if there were ever another victim of this dog, especially a child!!!
I really feel that it is your parents duty as citizens to report this.
Like I said, the fence was pretty high, it was just the trash can and tires next to it that allowed him to jump it..I don't blame him for that though because I wouldn't have suspected that, anyone can make that mistake.
That's so sad! I'm so sorry for your parent's loss. What I would do is have your parents talk to the neighbor and explain that they don't want to resort to contacting the authorities (like Minniyar said, maybe the dog is just aggressive towards other dogs) but that they feel that it should be the neighbors responsibility to replace the fence with a more secure fencing and shoulder the cost of doing so. They should request a privacy fence with secure bottoms so that nothing can get under it. I would also ask them to monetarily replace the Chihuahua. If they don't comply, they could maybe politely say, "Don't you think that is a better alternative to having the dog taken away from you and being fined? This would be a more humane, fair way to deal with this tragedy"
Huntersmom, thanks, I think that is what I'm going to do. If they don't get my parents a new dog and atleast put the dog somewhere else where my parents won't have to see him everyday and be reminded or worried for the next dog. If they don't agree...we'll call animal control or the police and have them deal with it. I hope the owner will agree to this.
Im sorry to hear about your parents dog. I have to agree with Minniyar though. If the dog can get out of the yard it is not being properly contained. I would have called animal control.
I dont know whats up with the shovel thing. When my neighbors pits attacked my dog we either pried thier jaws open, waited for them to release thier hold, or smacked them as hard as we could in the head with whatever we could get our hands on first.
Dymond7 So sorry for Chico … and your parents. … I would report it… and expect the owner to make an honorable attempt at restitution. Owners are responsible for the behavior of the dogs they care for....and Owners are responsible for where the dogs they care for are at all times. I own 2 American Staffordshire Terriers ,1 Boxer/Shep mix …and I would be very upset with my dogs making that mistake… and showing that kind of behavior!! I would have my dog re evaluated by a professional for aggression. And go through retraining and or even possibly harsher steps. Mine are collared , micro chipped, registered/ licensed and introduced to my neighborhood. The yard is fenced and checked regularly. I take full responsibility for them. I would only hope all owners do… no matter what breed.
Just a guess, but I would think his offer of a pup was to avoid having the incident reported to authorities. Now that time has elapsed, he's "forgotten" it as he's no longer concerned.
Just wondering, how long have your parents been his neighbor?
I also agree with Minniyar. If he could get over the fence, it (confinement) was far from secure.
Losing a pet is painful to say the least. To have a pet mauled and killed by an uncaring neighbor's improperly contained pet is inexcusable.
Your parents may be nonconfrontational, perhaps you can help by going over and talking to the neighbor and remind him that the incident can still be reported. My concern would be along the lines of this neighbor taking proper precautions in the future.
Dymond, to let you know the Pit Bull is not a bad dog,the dog has owners who should've secured the fence better.Never confuse animal aggression in the APBT , with human. Animal aggression and very strong prey drive to small animals is part of the APBT traits,but should be very human friendly. I'm so sorry about the Chiwowa(sp).I would defenitately go to the owner of the Pit and see what's going on in terms of a new puppy,and see if he's making the fence more secure so the dog can't get out again.If that doesn't work ,then I would sue for a new puppy.Don't let the owner get away with it,he has to pay something
Dymond7, that is tragic and absolutely INEXCUSEABLE.
My own dog has a classic scrappy terrier personality. She has overpowering instincts to pursue and destroy other animals. There is virtually no doubt in my mind that she would kill our neighbor's chihuahua! She cannot, however, because I have gone out of my way on a daily basis to ensure that such a situation can never possibly arise.
There is nothing inherently wrong with owning an aggressive animal as long as you do not permit the creature to impose upon others. It is always the responsibility of the owner to contain their animals adequately, NO MATTER WHAT, and trust me, every dog on the face of the Earth can be contained if one tries hard enough. If your dog is a violent escape artist, that is YOUR problem, not your neighbors'. When something goes wrong, blame should always be affixed to the owner.
I am so sick of reading stories like this. Unfortunately, as it is, domestic animals are treated as property, and the destruction of them is measured according to their monetary value, which bears very little deterrant value. I'll bet careless people like your parents' neighbors would be a hell of a lot less likely to let their potentially dangerous dog kill someone else's pet if the lawsuits carried MASSIVE PUNITIVE DAMAGES for pain & suffering.
Nevertheless, I would still pursue every available course to punish and attain reparations for this senseless negligence.
i dont think If yoiu reported the owner to animal control they would not put the dog to sleep. I think they would check things out to see if this could happen again. If so, how much control do the owners have of their dog. Then if " they" didnt have enough control they could place the dog with a better pet owner. Like someone said many dogs are dog aggressive and they dont put them all to sleep. The problem now is if you get another dog, will this happen again? Most likely it will. Something has to change. Maybe a higher fence is the trick.
Who's fence is it? your parents or the other owner? If you report him they may require him to get a higher fence. If he has no fence, maybe he should get one. Then you dont have to go through the expense, after all your dog stays in the yard its his that jumps out and kills!
Thank you all for your advice, to answer you questions..My parents haved lived there pretty much all their lives, before there neighbor lived there he probably lived there for a year or so. The fence seperates my parents yard from the neighbors yard I'm not exactly sure who owns it, probably the neighbor as his whole yard is fenced in.
Your parents can offer this for the nieghbor,I use it for my dogs. Put a e-fence along the line of the chain link fence. Once the dog feels the correction of the e-fence ,he will not want to go near the chain link to jump it.Again i'm sorry for your parents and their dog.
I'm so sorry for your parents! The incident needs reported! They will generally come out and speak with the owners, evaluate the dog, and the fencing, which would force them to make it secure so your parents can safely own a pet! I would be afraid to let another one out after that until something is done. He needs to be held accountable for what happened. A new pup, a new fence, and apologies out the woohoo!
I dont think the pit bull should be put down either. My pit gets along great with my dogs but i wouldnt trust her around other dogs. Dog aggresion was bred into them. Anyone who owns a pit bull should know this and be prepared to handle it. I would have reported the incident to AC. If it happens again than the person shouldnt have the dog. Its as simple as that. He shouldnt have an animal he cant control.