I'm glad to have helped. If I had 2 dogs, I too would've tried feeding the same food. It seems so much easier to buy one type of food. Thank you also for your advice about multi vitamin supplements and Hip & Joint supplements. It is something I will consider a few years down the road when Hershey's Kisses (Hershey for short) is no longer a puppy. Right now, I only give her a softgel supplement of Flax, Fish, & Borage Oils every other day and a 40 mg softgel of Lutein 2-3 times weekly. She looks so healthy. Her coat shines and feels so nice and soft. The reason why I started giving Hershey the lutein is because my son has a tendency to touch Hershey too much in the face near her eyes. They got a little red. So I thought that if lutein is good for people's eyes than why not for a dog. It seems to be helping a lot to keep her eyes looking healthy.
Four months ago, I started looking for a dog food for my new puppy. I thought that this would be an easy task, but much to my surprise, this has turned into one of the most confusing and difficult decisions that I have ever faced.
If my dog had not developed digestion problems, I would have probably just purchased whatever he would eat and I would have thought I was doing the best for him. I took him to my vet and he gave me Science Diet ID. Well this kind of worked, but I had to go to the vet's office for it, which was a pain, and my puppy did not like it. I tried mixing the dry with the canned and that made a bit of a difference. I have heard quite often not to feed canned food at all for dogs will prefer it and not go back to straight kibble.
Now why is this, I wondered? Dogs are not logical thinkers about food. They do not plan and manipulate, working up some sort of strategy to not eat plain kibble, because they know if they don't you will feed them canned. They eat what tastes good to them and appeals to their palate. I have heard time and time again that dogs will eventually eat - they will not starve - just wait them out and they will eat the kibble. People have actually told me that they have waited for three to four days and finally their dogs ate - and they say this with some degree of pride.
I wanted to find another way. There must be a food out there that would be good for my dog and that he would like also. Little did I know what a confusing mess this pet food industry is.
I started looking online at the major brands. I read web sites. I went to a lecture at one of the health food stores in my area. I talked to reps from the dog food companies ( most of them know little more than the party line). When you start investigating and find out how kibble is made, you will be surprised. (By the way, one of the best sites for information is Dr. Wysong, Wysong Pet Foods. They also have a regular customer service phone line, but two hours a day they have specialists that you can call with your questions. Unfortunately, my dogs are not loving the Wysong brand so far.)
I could go on, but this is getting long. I have found out a couple of facts worth noting. Pet food has little regulation. The ingredients are cheap, the methods of preparation are cheap, and the markup is enormous. The profits from pet food are over 11 billion a year. That is huge, and it is getting bigger, because people want to make good choices for their animals. That is why there has been such an influx of premium brands, which are a great improvement over the grocery store brands, but still are full of contradictory messages. I am still trying to come to the truth, but it is no easy feat.
I also called four vet schools, thinking they would surely know the answer as to what dogs needed to eat to be healthy. Do you realize that vets have little, if any, training in school in the area of nutrition? They may have a limited amount of a semester dedicated to prescription diets, but that is it.
I am curious about the diets that Gunny and Waiting 4OZ are feeding their dogs. Do you have a description of what you feed your dogs listed anywhere? Do you only feed foods you prepare, or do you also supplement with kibble? Thanks
We had Bash on Natural Balance and he did fine the first few times, but then started turning his nose up. He LOVES merricks canned but we haven't given it to him since he was a little younger. Its just a treat once in a while. We are now feeding Nutro Ultra.
How does this food rank in comparison to other Nutro foods? Has anyone else's pup turned their nose on Natural Balance and what did they like better?
PiXeL, my chocolate lab puppy eats Nutro Ultra Puppy and does quite well with it. To my knowledge, Nutro Ultra is Nutro's best. Hershey has tried all of Nutro and the Ultra is in my opinion their best. As far as best dog food out on the market, my answer to that would be that there are other brands of food with more and better nutritious ingredients. For instance, I heard from several people that Wellness would be better for my puppy. I tried several samples of Wellness with Hershey and at that time she seemed to love it. I even went out and bought Wellness for her and was at some point after using up her Nutro Ultra going to change her over only to Wellness. Now, I've got some thinking to do since Hershey loves her Nutro Ultra better than her Wellness.
All my dogs are on raw and it is the best thing ever. I follow the prey animal model.
Each of my dogs gets a piece of chicken, including the bone for breakfast, and later in the day they get a mix of hamburger, sausage, or turkey mixed with parsley, chopped carrots, garlic, egg, and salmon oil-you can use other veggies but dogs cannot digest corn.
My friend works at Wysong and does the specialist calls. So I'm really lucky to have her to tell me how crappy most of the dog food is out there. I just got a puppy a couple weeks ago and I will be using Wysong (they also advocate variation w/ raw foods).
I think that every dog is different. What might work on one may not always work for another. We tried Wellnes for our lab and he threw up alot but when we switched him to Nutro Natural Choice that changed. Everytime I read the post on here about food I start feeling bad. I start worrying over what I feed my furkids. My cocker has done so much better on the Natural Choice than the many other top brands I have tried.
Oh good lord! I am confused as well. My shar pei puppy is 12wks old and she has been eating a combo of Purina Puppy Chow and Purina Pro Plan Lamb & Rice. Now, some shar pei breeders recommend that they do not consume any Soybean products. It is quite hard to find any foods that do not contain soybean. My puppy was sick for a week straight at the age of 7wks so, she lost weight. She was w/ the breeder then and since I got her about 4wks ago she has had surgery for necrosis. She just had her stitches removed on Monday and is doing much better, but I knew she had lost weight since the surgery so I began preparing a raw food diet. Chicken, fresh carrots, peas, and rice. She has been gaining weight quickly and I noticed on her raw diet she has more of an appetite and has less BM's. Now, can anyone suggest what dog food I could feed her? Has anyone ever heard of Cloudstar? They have Buddy biscuits, buddy shampoo, dry food, and I believe even some raw food available in their line. Thanks for any advice you guys can offer!
I've been feeding my dog purina healthy morsels for over a year and now I'm concerned that its bad for him. I want to get him better food but here are my two dilemmas. One, I live in a small town with few place to choose from. Two, I'm on an extremely tight budget and can't afford the expensive stuff. What do I do?
Do you have any pet or health food stores around you? If not, how far away is the closest one? Also, as for the money aspect of it, even though better quality food is more expensive, you don't have to feed as much of it as you would one with a lot of filler and junk. (Filler goes right through them and doesn't provide the nutrients they need...which in turns makes dogs usually eat more.) Therefore, it lasts you longer and overall, depending on the product, you can find a good quality food which really won't be all that much more money!
"The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to his level of sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his."
Referring to the post about Beneful...they add food colouring to the food like Red#(whatever number) - why bother adding colour to a dog food? These colourings are associated with cancer for humans. Why Purina would even bother is beyond me....if you use Wiley's scale, it gets a mere 17...so as far as I'm concerned, it is low quality and can do harm to your dog. Sorry just my opinion....
In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semi human. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog. ~Edward Hoagland
Flip, someone on dogster I think, emailed Purina asking them about the food color. They said they do it because "studies show" people are more likely to buy it if its colored. They claim there is no harm in it.
I highly recommend Orijen. It is an all natural pet food that you can usually buy at smaller retailers. If you don't like that I would feed your dog anything all natural. Your pets health is very important
Mine eat Orijen and love it ! They devour their food ! And I feel great knowing that what they are eating is one of the best foods on the market today. Progress is made and foods will always change and evolve but so will I and will continue to research to find the best possible food. Raw interests me also but I am afraid with two dogs that it would cost to much. Innova Evo, Solid Gold are also great foods and worth looking into. They will become part of my rotation. And if proof is in the pudding, then I can tell you, I have two lively dogs that have shiny coats and that says it all. These foods are high in protein and not meant for pups under 18 months of age.