Hi! My name is Anne-Marie, I live in Vermont, and I'm a new member. My dog, Chance, has epilepcy. To tell you the truth, I get scared sometimes after she has her seizures and even during because sometimes, her seizure doesn't stop, and it could become a never-ending seizure which then means that I would have to get her euthinized. Me, I don't beleive in euthinizing at all. Unless the dog has gone seriously mad or is suffering, there is no reason to kill the dog. In Humane Societies, they give shots to kill if they don't have enough room for all the animals, that, I don't understand. They kill the ones that have the least chance of being adopted. But those ones are the ones that need the mosst care out of all the other ones. I hope atleast some of you guys agree with me. Wait, I have to see if I can get this message to the forum page, if it works, I'll continue the conversation. Toodaloo!
I had a red and white Pit Bull who was only 14 months old diagnosed with cancer that nothing could be done to help her. I'm telling it was the hardest decision in my life to make when the right time to pts.I never want to do that again.Till this day at times I still feel guilty even though I know Noey is no longer suffering and much happier at the Rainbow Bridge.It is part of life when owning animals though.
Now in shelters as sad as it is ,it's something that needs to be done.I don't agree with it at all,I know it has to be done.What I find more disturbing then anything is the killing of innocent puppies , or immediate euthanasia of Pit Bulls in shelters in some cities.Some of those dogs don't even make it into the adoption process , just automatically killed. That sickens me.
Just to add , sometimes no kill shelters in my opinion can be much worse then kill shelters.There's a no kill shelter in Poughkeepsie where I live ,i've been there numerous times and was looking into adopting Wilson who's a white deaf Pit Bull. The adoption fell through because I have a e-fence fencing system , and Wilson being deaf ,they where afraid it wouldn't work. He was there for 2 years before that , adopted once and returned , and now 1 and a half years later he's still there. My point is ,is that any better for a animal.Wilson is not the only one being in there for that length of time.I just don't see how that can be healthy for a animal either.
I agree with you that it is really sad to see dogs that practically live in the shelter because nobody wants to adopt him. I have a Humaine Society near my house, and a dog named Aquarius (a lab almost as big as a great dane, but still a lab) almost came home with us one day (I'm a volunteer at the shelter). He had been there for only 4 months, but that's a long time being in a shelter. He was the sweetest thing ever! He could sit, lie down, anything you said he would do it, but since at my house we already have a black lab named Chance and a cat named Smudge, there wasn't enough room for him. I'm sorry about your Pitt Bull. I wouldn't let my dog suffer either. But you should feel like you did the right thing, and that if he was still alive, he would be suffering. Are the Pitt Bull your favorite type of dog? Mine, as you might know, are labradors. Thanks for welcoming me, and I hope that we can communicate more on dogs soon!
i think its the best thing we can do for our pets when they are suffering and dying, with no chance of survival. if we let them suffer because we dont want to let them go, we are selfish. its extremely hard when the time comes to make that decision. i would never put any of my pets down because of old age. but if they are fading and theres no hope , i would never let them suffer . when you truly love your pet, you wouldnt let them die a slow and painful death. at least i wouldnt..
This is so great! Don't you just love expressing and talking about things you keep inside with people? I do. I knew you loved pitts, I could tell. What kind of a misunderstood look do you think that the pitts have? Just curious to know...
Pit Bulls in general are not for novice owners ,they are not for every one.Things like dog aggression being confused with human aggression.The problem is too many people own them and don't know enough about them ,this is when things happen that make head lines.You need to be educated own your breed of choice before you own one.I think they are the most abused and misunderstood canine out there.I've said this before,humans don't need to fear Pit Bulls,Pit bulls need to fear humans who are truly evil.They need our love and protection.That's why I have such a passion for the breed.
rednose - I know which dog you are talking about, the pit that is trained with hand signals? I didn't know he was there that long though. Poor guy. I just dropped them some of Riley's treats he's never used and some toys.
I think that it's wrong to point our fingers at the animal shelters and rescues. They are doing the best they can. The one in our town operates on private donations only with no outside governmental help. Every single spring, whn the college students graduate and move on without their pets, they are inundated with dogs and cats that have been completely abandoned, many are just left out on the road in hopes that 'someone will pick them up'. Or people who breed their dogs to 'make some extra money' or because 'the puppies would be so adorable and I know my dog will make such a sweet mother' or 'I just haven't gotten around to neutering/spaying' and then the puppies are 4 months old and no one wants them so they just dump them off because 'theyr'e cute, someone will come to the humane society and adopt them'. When people are dropping off dogs for no worse reason than they 'get the floor muddy' or 'bark' or 'dig' or 'shed'.. What do you expect is going to happen?
It is not the shelters we should be angry at, it's irresponsible owners who see their dogs, cats, whatever, as disposable commodities or money making breeding machines.
It's idealistic and unrealistic to say "They should keep the 'unadoptable' dogs because they need the most help"
It's easy to say that, but the reality is, what do you do when you have kennels and cages for 100 animals but you are picking up 10 every day to add to the numbers? Where are you going to put those extra animals when there is no room? When 5% of all new animals coming to the shelter are so aggressive because of neglect or poor care that it's unsafe for staff members to even go into the kennel wtih them to feed them?
IF...a pet will not have a happy healthy , without pain and/or suffering …life .. then yes.
shelters-/ think I agree … it IS sad to see .... … I don’t want them to live lonely on concrete forever either! Without a family’s love. That breaks my heart too!
You’d think after the Katrina thing ALL the Animals rescues and All the animals shelters would be doing their ‘dang’ best right now to link up… to be better organized for the well being of our nations pets. ( be it horse or ferret) … so that type of horrid event will not happen again.
IF they do link … many more possibilities open up for adoptions…~ better resources to get these baby’s out and off the lonely road and into warm loving homes!
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I agree with dusty. Sometimes, dogs are so sick that nothing can be done to make them better, so why should we let them suffer? It is selfish to do that. Just because WE don't want to feel bad. Just because WE don't want to see the dog gone. Those are the reasons that dogs in no-kill shelters end up living there for a year. I would say that it is sadder to see a dog sit in a shelter in a little cage for one year than to see a sick dog put to sleep. I honestly do. Heart CP
I know that we shouldn't point fingers and that they are doing their best, but if the shelter is doing a not so good job to clean the cages atleast twice or three times a week, then there's a problem. Some people don't work at those kinds of shelters because of how dirty or messy it is. That's the problem with that sheler. They probably don't have enough staff members and volunteers to come everyday to help out with the animals. When I think about what you said Minniyar, now I see that it IS the people that decide to be irresponsible of their pet and then end up trashing it in a corner of the street while saying "he's so cute, somebody will take care of him for me". But we shouldn't point fingers at the people either, because maybe they don't have enough money to pay for the pet food and all the pet supply, so that's why they end up leaving it, and the shelter is picking it up off the street. BUT, if an owner has perfectly enough money to pay all the pet supplies and just leaves the dog like that, THEN I agree with you. We should be angry at the people rich enough who don't care about their dog and leaving it, not the people who lost their job; the people who are poor, actually, there are also some poor people that end up picking poor animals off the street and giving them to the shelters. We shouldn't blame them either. Only the people who know and can take care of a dog but don't. Do you agree?
I have never and will never pts a dog or any animal. I have first hand knowlwdge that a dog who may seem incurable can pop right out of the problem. I had a dog once who had numerous problems, some of which were potentially life threatening. his vet wanted to pts and my parents said no. Well, a month later he just didn't have any of the bad problems anymore. He was still blind but he was in no pain and you never would have known he was ever sick.
I-love-labs, you are exactly correct. You can't always blame the dogs owner for having to give the animal up. I've know a family that adopted two dogs, but had terrible things happen with only one. They had to return the one because she was causing problems, not just between the owners and the dogs, but between the man and woman who owned her. I knew how tough a decision it was for them and when someone in our humane society started talking bad about them, I wasn't just going to sit there.
We recently had another dog returned. He was cared for wonderfully. Ate only the best food, went to the groomers every month, had some training. The lady that gave him up really loved him, but she had a young baby and the dog ate the booties off of his feet. Now to me this is a chance to educate my dog, but to this horrified young mother who doesn't have the dog behavior knowledge that I do, she was terrified.
Of course many times we get dogs that come from people who just can't afford to care for them. One young lab came in that had been bottle fed from birth. I don't know what happened to its mom, but the lady really loved her. She couldn't afford to feed herself and the dog so she gave her up. We had to soak the poor little thing in frontline to kill all the fleas.
We had another poor lady that had two weimaraners(I know thats spelled wrong) she gave up. They both had heart worms and were malnourished, because sometimes she and the dogs got to eat and sometimes they didn't. One of them never could overcome his problems and finally passed away, but the other has a happy home now.
As for the little lab covered with fleas, she lives with me know. She's kinda the dog that introduces all the new foster dogs to their surroundings. Her name is Patchey, because she had little patches where the fleas had bitten her so much.
I understand your point doxielover, but what if the dog is in extreme pain and has cancer? Keeping it alive would only be a selfish descision because YOU would feel bad when the dog died, and YOU would still want it around. BUt if the dog is in so much pain, making it suffer in huge amounts of pain because you will miss the dog is worse than putting it down. Heart CP